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Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general |
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01-27-2006, 06:52 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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fishing line help
which superbraid does everyone perfer.
Spectra Pro , fireline, superbraid, etc........
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01-27-2006, 07:03 PM
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#2
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Location: weymouth
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None of them does everything perfect. It depends on 1. type of reel, 2. type of fishing. 3. budget.
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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01-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: RockVegas
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Fireline or Cortland Spectron.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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01-27-2006, 08:18 PM
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#4
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umm,the juicy sweets!!!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: n.chelmsford
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FIRELINE!
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Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot.
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01-27-2006, 09:32 PM
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#5
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: south shore , ma
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power pro with a segar florocarbon leaders 
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01-28-2006, 07:06 AM
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#6
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Location: Marshfield, MA
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For my cod gear I use the Cortland Spectron. My bass rods have Gudebrod SST which I have used for a long time. I do have some Berkley whiplash left over and now have a big spool of 50 pound PP. I think they are all basically the same, very small differences. As others have said some of it has to do with the reel type and model.
The Cortland Spectron seems to have a bigger diameter and lasts longer with the constant jigging of big jigs....although on days when the current is ripping in 300 feet of water the guy using the thinner product will hold bottom a little long than the bigger dia.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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01-28-2006, 07:29 AM
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#7
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Location: weymouth
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Beamie. Do you use dacron under the braid? That can be expensive.
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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01-28-2006, 08:43 AM
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#8
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Location: New Hampshire
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I was hoping to use it on everything. Couple of spin rods and two levelwinds.
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01-28-2006, 11:06 AM
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Location: Marshfield, MA
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QD,
Absolutely. On the cod rods it is mostly dacron backing. Then 150 yds of braid. All the rods I use braid on have some sort of backing and only enough braid to fish with. Boy if you went braid all the way it would suuuurely be expensive.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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01-28-2006, 12:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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I've been using PP on both spin and conventional reels no problems with either. But I have not used the other brands so I don't have a comparison.
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01-28-2006, 12:26 PM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
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I like FireLine and Siderwire Stealth, always with a dacron backing!!
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"All my friends are Flakes!!"
BOATLESS
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01-29-2006, 09:51 AM
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#12
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Location: New Hampshire
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I used to use spiderwire, but I'm just so tired of the 125 - 150' lengths. Maybe if they sold it in bulk, I wouldn't be changing. I think I'm going to try some fireline this year.
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01-29-2006, 11:48 AM
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#13
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Location: On my boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamie
QD,
Absolutely. On the cod rods it is mostly dacron backing. Then 150 yds of braid. All the rods I use braid on have some sort of backing and only enough braid to fish with. Boy if you went braid all the way it would suuuurely be expensive.
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Too much braid is not only expensive,
Having too much on the spool is a pain in the but because if you really pull on it, it just buries into it's self
I use green power pro and have some cod reels spooled with (yellow)Stren super braid
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LETS GO BRANDON
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01-29-2006, 11:55 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Line
Power Pro so far........... 
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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01-29-2006, 04:26 PM
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#15
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Location: New Hampshire
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does the color actually matter for all fish. I know tuna supposedly have great vision and stripers too, but what do you think?
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01-29-2006, 04:28 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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if I use mono as backing on my spinning reels, what lb. line should I use.
I'm planning on using 30lb on two reels and maybe 50lb on the others
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01-29-2006, 04:30 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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powerpro i think it's 62# test or something like that. comes in a big spool for about 80 bucks i love it. stripers., cod, everything..
only mono i use is on the big stuff. everything else is braid.
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02-04-2006, 04:58 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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so what lb test for the backing? does it matter, hopefully you won't be down to it anyhow.
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02-04-2006, 06:24 PM
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Location: Whitman,Ma.
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Power pro for me...No problems
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I'm going where I'm going...
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02-04-2006, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Wakefield, RI
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Me too; spin, conventional, baitcast, with Big Game backing, usually 30#.
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02-05-2006, 11:08 AM
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Location: Sea or Sand
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taJon, On our light spinning rods 7-8 ft, we use 30 lb power pro with 10 - 12 lb test berkly big game backing.
On Bill's light Baitcasting 8 ft with a calcutta 400, all cod rods, all bass rods, spinning and conv, we use 50 lb test with 15 -20 lb berkly big game backing.
Tie the lines together using a uni-uni knot and they will stay together perfecty, have never had a line part not even on Nice size false albacore on light tackle. If you use a snap swivel or direct tie on your lure us a palomar not and you will be good to go.
also , we only do a few wraps of mono and fill the spool with Power Pro, Yes it is expensive, but if we need to fix the line cause it is getting a little worn, we just reverse the line onto another reel that way the good stuff is in the front. Buy Bulk it is much cheaper!!!!!
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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02-05-2006, 12:20 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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Fisherwoman, great idea on reversing the line!!!!!!
i don't think I ever would have thought of that. Heres a couple more ?s
1. What method do you use when spooling the line for the first time. Is the line wet?
2. how do you put the tension on it without ruining some of the coatings?
3. how do you measure the amount of line on the reel?
thanks alot
Jon
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02-05-2006, 10:45 PM
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#23
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Location: Newport, RI
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On lighter spinning reels I'm a big fan of Fireline. 5000 and under Shimanos just love 14# Fireline which breaks at a # test MUCH higher then it is rated. For big spinning reels, I think Power Pro is better, except that I think Fireline is better then Power Pro in the rocks.
As for the coatings on both lines, I can't wait for them to fall off. Both work better for me once they're broken in. Light grey Fireline is the best. I also wouldn't worry about wetting the line, I've spooled up conservatively a few hundred thousand yards of braid and I've never bothered.
I'm also with Fisherwoman on the uni to uni, it's a great knot. Some instructions will tell you it's only for similar diameter lines, I find it work great even for very different diameters. As a general rule, less turns on the thicker diameter, and more on the thinner.
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02-06-2006, 10:16 AM
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Location: Sea or Sand
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taJon,
You can questimate the amount of line you have put on the reel based on the diameter of the line and what the reel is rated for on the side. Unless you have a line counter when putting it on your all set then. I feel our reels to 1/8 of an inch of the lip on the spool.
Pete G is right about the coating it all wears off after time, and he is right on about Fire line, I used 14 lb test many many years on my light tackle stella 4000, but went to PP because there is not a whole lot of difference when you get used to using it. Although I did think I got a little more distance in casting with the FL but nothing major.
Another thing that will make the line lose its coating faster is the type of guides on the rods, if you have soft or plastic guides it will wear faster. If you have hard or sic guides it wears slower and does not make the line frey like fire line used too. although I know they have changed alot of those problems with fireline when it 1st came out.
SPooling on with help from another person holding the spool with a pensil in the middle and adding a little tension will work just fine. I use a dish rag to hold the line as it gets hot quick, does't take much of the caoting off. The other way is to take it to your local tackle shop and have them spool it on for you, Depending on the type of reel you use it will definatly pack better on the spool with a maching filling.
No Water needed as it is not a line that will pack tighter with water. It does not absorb water.
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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02-06-2006, 04:53 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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What size fish were you bringing in with the 14 lb line? 20 lbs, 30 lbs +?
Is it true that the line actually breaks at 1.5 times the amount listed in the rating? because its not actually IFGA certified, or is it?
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02-06-2006, 06:42 PM
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Location: weymouth
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Set your drag on your reel 25% of the breaking strength. Now its all up to your skilz!
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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02-06-2006, 07:06 PM
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Location: Sea or Sand
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Never had any braid break on a fish yet. Been cut off on the rocks but never broken line issues.
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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02-07-2006, 10:33 AM
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Location: Newport, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taJon
What size fish were you bringing in with the 14 lb line? 20 lbs, 30 lbs +?
Is it true that the line actually breaks at 1.5 times the amount listed in the rating? because its not actually IFGA certified, or is it?
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We've got a couple tuna around 40#'s on it as well as bass over 40 on light tackle gear. I've heard of people testing 14# Fireline and finding breaking strength in the upper 20's to low 30's. Strong stuff. I'd have to check IGFA rules, it could be that the leader is what your "line class" is when using strong braids, but I really have no idea.
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