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02-07-2006, 04:57 PM
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Not sure what I was searching for before but if you google "1891 and striper" you get many hits referring to this landing. 125lbs off NC coast.
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02-07-2006, 05:12 PM
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There is also a Maine record of about the same era of a 98 lb. Striper
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02-07-2006, 05:23 PM
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There are a bunch of written records...but no photos. I don't believe them. I also don't think Mr. Church's fish was 73, it was a great fish but it does not look like a 73.
There was a written record in the fulton fish market (ny) that had a 100# bass...gutted without the head! (est weight was 125)Also several in Long Island Sound in the late 1800's were records that had them to something like 98#s...again, no photos back then.
I want to see the fish and the measurements before I (really) believe it.
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 02-08-2006 at 07:35 AM..
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02-07-2006, 05:30 PM
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there could still be
100 lb bass .....today....that wouldnt surprise me.
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02-07-2006, 05:44 PM
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Capt. Don has a 90 lb er on the wall at his shop. He brings it to the RISAA show.
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02-07-2006, 05:45 PM
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I have no doubt there are still 100lb cows out there, they stay offshore, and us surfcasters dont really get a shot at them.
I know of several reliable reports of fish 80 plus, always seem to get away tho...a scuba aquaintance of mine swore hes seen bass that would smoke the record, ive heard this from other people also, I believe Mike Laptew even talked about seeing some fish over 80lbs once diving off Newport.
I cant even imagine a bass over 100lbs, imagine that thing swimming by you out on a bar in the wee hours of the AM 
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02-08-2006, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by libassboy
I have no doubt there are still 100lb cows out there, they stay offshore, and us surfcasters dont really get a shot at them.
I know of several reliable reports of fish 80 plus, always seem to get away tho...a scuba aquaintance of mine swore hes seen bass that would smoke the record, ive heard this from other people also, I believe Mike Laptew even talked about seeing some fish over 80lbs once diving off Newport.
I cant even imagine a bass over 100lbs, imagine that thing swimming by you out on a bar in the wee hours of the AM 
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Prob. try and eat ya! 
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Capt. Skip
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02-08-2006, 11:01 AM
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Raven,
I have a feeling those 100+ pounders get fatter more than longer, may have to shorten up that pic and widen it out 
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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02-07-2006, 05:52 PM
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Believe it. Records do exist. Take for example two taken in nets ( when haul seining was legal in Massachusetts) at Orleans both weighed near 120 pounds gutted 112 ea. Photos back then were a big deal for the average commercial fisherman of 1890. Did you ever see the video of the live 80 pounder the USFWS tagged in Chesapeake Bay in the 80's? Or the video of the guy wrestling the 80 odd pounder on the deck of a heaving NOAA boat doing netting offshore of the outer banks in December? Mighty impressive fish especially when he gets whacked (the guy) by the tail and goes down on the deck still holding the fish. I believe that fish that big are still out there. Will a surfcaster or boatmen tag one? Most likely it will be caught by some cod fishermen off of Great hill dropping a jig to the bottom in late November in the channel, a catch by chance. Me and my Fishing Bud Eric LaFleur saw a fish in French Watering place on Naushon in June one year that was enormous, I mean upsetting enormous and it tried to take a danny but had so much mass as it rushed the plug in 3 feet of water it simply pushed the plug ahead of itself. Niether of us could talk for a while after seeing that fish. We caught forty pounders there that were dwarfed by this one, I will never forget that and how close Eric came to making history. It swam under the boat in gin clear water that was 3 feet deep. Unbelievable? No way, they are out there.
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Why even try.........
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02-07-2006, 06:42 PM
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I'm skeptical if you can't tell. Since 1900 the gear, technology, tackle, fishing knowledge and numbers of fishers out there I'ld think you'ld see a wider range of fish bewtween then and now. Like more 90's and 80's not just a few. They must be on a strict lobster deit if their off-shore. Do you think they stopped stretching when they reached 100ish. Then again its the ocean anything is possible.
pt.j...90#?????
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02-07-2006, 07:08 PM
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I hope they're out there, out there eating dogfish 
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02-07-2006, 11:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Did you ever see the video of the live 80 pounder the USFWS tagged in Chesapeake Bay in the 80's? Or the video of the guy wrestling the 80 odd pounder on the deck of a heaving NOAA boat doing netting offshore of the outer banks in December?
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Flap. are the videos avail. to see? Online or whatever? I'd love to see them.. 
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02-08-2006, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
There are a bunch of written records...but no photos. I don't believe them. I also don't think Mr. Church's fish was 73, it was a great fish but it does not look like a 73.
There was a written record in the fulton fish market (ny) that had a 100# bass...gutted without the head! (est weight was 125)Also several in Long Island Sound in the late 1800's were records that had them to something like 98#s...again, no photos back then.
I want to see the fish and the measurements before I (really) believe it.
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Who caught that? John Gotti
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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