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Old 02-08-2006, 02:37 PM   #1
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Indonesia ovewhelming muslim population if im not mistaken.

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Old 02-08-2006, 03:31 PM   #2
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I think the riots and what sparked them is going a long way to convince us that they are unreasonable and not interested in living in peace with the rest of the people in the world. They want everyone praying to Mecca and kill everyone who doesn't. We are being fools right now to think we can stomp out a few radicals and the problem goes away.

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Old 02-08-2006, 03:46 PM   #3
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I nominate Saltheart for President!

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Old 02-08-2006, 03:53 PM   #4
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Welllllllllllllll, isn't that what Prez Bush's vision to spread democracy is all about?

Granted, I think it's a neocon pipe dream...but that is the plan!

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Old 02-08-2006, 04:43 PM   #5
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Thumbs up egg zactly my thoughts too

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I think the riots and what sparked them is going a long way to convince us that they are unreasonable and not interested in living in peace with the rest of the people in the world. They want everyone praying to Mecca and kill everyone who doesn't. We are being fools right now to think we can stomp out a few radicals and the problem goes away.
saltheart "well spoken" it aint going away...its gonna mushroom.
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Old 02-08-2006, 06:19 PM   #6
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I just think that BOTH sides operate with a "my way or the highway" attitude, which inherently leaves little option for communication and always pushes towards violence.

I'm not saying I have the answers, just that making this a black or white issue isn't going to solve problems. They're never going to stop blowing stuff up, and we of course can't go all the way militarily and scrub them off the planet.

Maybe it's an overly optimistic view (but I don't think so unless you seriously think bombing them into oblivion is an option), but at some point some common ground, even a little, needs to be found. Security policies need total reinvention and the roots of the problems need to be addressed, as opposed to addressing just the end result of violence. United States Security should not only be thought of as a military issue.

Diplomacy seems to be a lost art. Someone, somewhere needs to offer an olive branch. Of course, the past couple decades of policy has kind of pushed things towards a point of no return...
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Old 02-08-2006, 06:46 PM   #7
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Diplomacy seems to be a lost art.
Correction, it is a lost art!

I posted a mini-review of "The New American Militarisim" a while back...read it...

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Old 02-08-2006, 07:49 PM   #8
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Correction, it is a lost art!

I posted a mini-review of "The New American Militarisim" a while back...read it...

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Unfortunately it's not on Google books yet. I may have to go actually buy it.
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