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Old 02-13-2006, 11:23 PM   #1
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Use the hooks like any other tool in ur arsenal.I have found the Beachmasters to be on the heavy side.to crawl em on top in flat water u will need 2/0's.bigger surf u could go bigger on the front.Same with trowin em in the breachways there are heavier hooks u can use also like the owners.on danny's wit 2 hooks i like no hook on the tail just dressing.To some this may seem like overkill.I got alot of lures i dress em accordingly an fish em as the situation dictates.Yea its good to be prepaired when mr.big comes along but how do u know he was there all along an decided not to take ur offering...
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Old 02-14-2006, 07:55 AM   #2
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for the beachmaster dannys I'v always gone 3/0 in front w/ a dressed 5/0 siwashed in the rear,I'll have to try the 2/0 in front and see the difference.
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:18 AM   #3
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one more thing...

Always crimp the barbs on the rear belly hook.
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:30 AM   #4
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for the beachmaster dannys I'v always gone 3/0 in front w/ a dressed 5/0 siwashed in the rear,I'll have to try the 2/0 in front and see the difference.

Yeah... like I've EVER seen you throw a plug...

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Old 02-14-2006, 09:18 AM   #5
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I've been running a pair of 3/0's with #5 split rings on the belly of the Danny's I've been fishing for the past year or so and no tail hook, just a teaser back there. Works well enough for me.

I'll be running cut VMC's so I don't have to use the split ring this year but I'm going to stick with 3/0 except on one plug where I might try the 2/0.
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:12 PM   #6
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I'm obviously in the minority on this... but I believe hook size/ weight as it effects plug- action, is an extremely over- rated issue! I believe that only on the smaller finess- type plastic plugs, and maybe with some of the smallest wooden plugs (ex. 1 oz. Dannys, Tattoos), does any beefed- up hook size within reason provide "too" much weight for optimal plug action. This is very over- rated a concern I find-- largely a myth! Furthermore, if you are using 4x VMC's as you should-- cut ones only are required on Dannys in particular, not just to save using a split ring... but because that extra swing distance of a split-ring-attached head Treble, on most Danny- type plugs results in lip- caught hooks & thus wasted casts when it happens. Direct- attached Trebles don't reach the lip! Finally-- VMC's of larger sizes, weigh way less than Mustad trebles of lesser sizes!

So: I really forget hook "weight" when deciding sizes of head trebles on plugs. Also, as a "large hunter" only, I'm always thinking strength first, "optimal" action second... So here's what I use: btw, all are head- hook suggestions. To me it goes without saying that 98% of plugs (except the very most outsized) should be fished with one head treble, no middle at all, and a rear single (or no rear hook, depending) (again, some will say heresy on much of this!):

--Large (3 oz) Gibbs Dannys: 4/0 open- eye Mustad 3x. The 4/0 cut VMC just seems too physically small to match this plug to me/ my eyes (with that "50" in mind)... the 5/0 VMC too big... and the 4/0 Mustad is the only Mustad 3x treble I trust! (the 4x 4/0 Mustad trebles are junk-- & expensive!) oke:

--Medium (2 oz.) Dannys: 4/0 cut VMC (4x 'natch). (Second choice: another 3x 4/0 Mustad)

--Large Beachmaster/ other heavy/ duty Danny- types: 5/0 cut VMC (4x). Yes, 5/0! Large hook physically, true: but no way the weight affects these plugs' action at all negatively! At least by my field testing. Way more important to action, is the fishers' skill in retrieve...

-- Smallest/ 1 oz. Dannys/ Swimmers: 3/0 cut VMC 4/x

To discuss all other non- Danny- type plugs, & what (larger) hook patterns & sizes are workable would be a very lengthy discussion (& some think this too lengthy no doubt already! Some not...). But suffice to say, I go much bigger & "heavier" than most of my peers when it come to plug hook sizes at least on the head-- and can't think of one (largish/ wood esp.) plug that ever suffered action- wise as a result. Just leave off that middle treble, and go rear single or with Nebes' idea of a hookless tail- dressing... and your plugs' action will do just fine with a beefed- up head hook (that is, if fished properly)! And if you're about landing (& releasing!) large only like me-- you will be much more confident when something starts peeling drag off your reel like never before! (the moment we all live for!)
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:23 PM   #7
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When Mr. Big starts running and turning and rubbing on the bottom I would feel much better with the middle hook on.

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Old 02-14-2006, 12:37 PM   #8
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Hey, S.D.:

No one wants to lose large-- not even C & R guys like me!

Question is: which holds better?? An oversized single beefed- up head treble... or two smallish trebles?

I've decided it's option #1! Again, I know this is controversial... but don't knock it 'till you try it!
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:38 PM   #9
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I like mine to have 1 4/0 in the belly and a 6/0 in the tail... not two..
I take most 2 hook dannys and beef the front and remove the back belly hook...
then again I dont fish dannys all that often...

Bryan

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