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Old 02-21-2006, 03:40 PM   #1
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It's definitely a fascinating business model, especially if you're in the retail industry. When I say it's genius, I really believe that. Hell, I'd probably do the same thing if I had the leverage. Bring lower prices to my customers while protecting my margins? Sounds great to me. But it is dangerous and you word it very well though when you said "So are we caught in a vicious cycle of searching for the lowest price for goods and services, while cannibalizing our own domestic economy?" That is exactly what I feel it is. The numbers SHOW that it is. And I think it will change the US economy for years to come, and I have to doubt it will be for the better. Innovation within our country and increased minimum wages in upcoming nations will probably be the only thing that slows it down. If it doesn't I almost feel it will be the beginning of the end for the US as a superpower if we're not already on the downslope. All countries and empires before us have risen and fallen. No reason to think we won't do the same....

That's my point in reflection to the Romans. It appears at least to me we are on the downslope of the greatness of America as an economic, super, military, humanitary power and accelerating.
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Old 02-21-2006, 03:42 PM   #2
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That's my point in reflection to the Romans. It appears at least to me we are on the downslope of the greatness of America as an economic, super, military, humanitary power and accelerating.

I completely agree, unfortunately.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:28 PM   #3
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That's my point in reflection to the Romans. It appears at least to me we are on the downslope of the greatness of America as an economic, super, military, humanitary power and accelerating.
Why dont you guys move to an Arab country, for christ sakes. My brother is in Iraq right now, and for the protection of all your skinny white backsides. THis is the greatest country in the world, and will be for a long time. Its the whiners like you guys that drag the humanitarian side down, and in terms of economics, this country could buy the world ten times over. Walmart is part of this system of capitalism, which is part of the whole that lets us priveleged few chat on our expensive computers and buy our 300 dollar reels and 20 dollar plugs, etc. etc. etc.

Thats enough on the off topic subject of the decline of the western civilation and the correlation to the roman empire. Lets call a spade a spade here. You had retail prices at the show and you claim its to cover overhead, blah blah blah blah blah. You were makin money, plain and simple, and gettin a whole pile o advertising to boot. The fact that you admit the sales were seperate shows that your retail booth had nuthin to do with charity, plain and simple.

Again, stick to the topic of fishin and leave yer dime store politics/history lessons out of it.

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Old 02-21-2006, 07:32 PM   #4
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And btw, i give plenty to charity, but the ones i choose. I still think if someone comes and takes the time to go to the show, that there should be some show pricing, plain and simple. Im on a budget, and its tax season, and i wont use this stuff for another 2 months. That is why I buy some of my plugs at Walmart or online, cuz its an expensive sport, plain and simple.

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Old 02-21-2006, 08:14 PM   #5
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And btw, i give plenty to charity, but the ones i choose. I still think if someone comes and takes the time to go to the show, that there should be some show pricing, plain and simple. Im on a budget, and its tax season, and i wont use this stuff for another 2 months. That is why I buy some of my plugs at Walmart or online, cuz its an expensive sport, plain and simple.

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Old 02-21-2006, 08:24 PM   #7
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Thank you, shows daily at 9 and 11, free admittance for whiners.......
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:31 PM   #8
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OK Squiddler..
first off lay off the caffine at this time of night....
Second, I have zero (0) affiliation with Pete and the SWE, we're in the same fishing club, thats about it.
I dont think he should or have to seperate himself out as an 'end user'
In my OPINION, having people in the industry, like Pete, MikeCC etc.. is a huge asset of this site. We get the skinny new gear, and good reviews.. I fish 100+ nights a season, and in no way do I or can I see/review gear than people in shops who get people in daily to get repairs and buy gear... the fact that Mike or Pete or others has input as to what holds up/works and what doesnt is huge.
I was out of town this weekend, didnt make it to the fair, but if I remember from last year, it was free to get into, free for seminars, the raffle was optional, and you didnt have to buy jack diddily %$%$%$%$ if you didnt want to. There were numerous high profile fisherman there and you could have picked their brains for free. I think you need to chill out a bit dude...

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Am I just overly sensitized to these numbers or did anyone else see 911 in this?? I hear Twilight Zone music!
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:05 PM   #10
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Why dont you guys move to an Arab country, for christ sakes. My brother is in Iraq right now, and for the protection of all your skinny white backsides. THis is the greatest country in the world, and will be for a long time. Its the whiners like you guys that drag the humanitarian side down, and in terms of economics, this country could buy the world ten times over. Walmart is part of this system of capitalism, which is part of the whole that lets us priveleged few chat on our expensive computers and buy our 300 dollar reels and 20 dollar plugs, etc. etc. etc.

Thats enough on the off topic subject of the decline of the western civilation and the correlation to the roman empire. Lets call a spade a spade here. You had retail prices at the show and you claim its to cover overhead, blah blah blah blah blah. You were makin money, plain and simple, and gettin a whole pile o advertising to boot. The fact that you admit the sales were seperate shows that your retail booth had nuthin to do with charity, plain and simple.

Again, stick to the topic of fishin and leave yer dime store politics/history lessons out of it.

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A friend of mine is dead and my cousin's husband nearly lost his arm in Iraq, so I certainly understand what having people you care about overseas is all about. Do you really believe we're un-American if we're worried about the well being of our country?

Now, the Conservation Raffle. The SWE booth sits entirely separate from the raffle area. Raffle proceeds goes to whatever cause they go to that year, and normal SWE sales are normal SWE sales. I don't know how to say that more clearly or why you think it operates otherwise. I would think it would be fairly obvious. I'm not "admitting" anything as you put it. It just is what it is.

To be honest, at this point your post is libel.

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Old 02-21-2006, 08:18 PM   #11
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All right Pete, maybe my panties are in a bunch, and it had alot to do with your rep at the show.

But libel, cmon dude, settle down.

If it helps, I retract my comments in regards to your shop, and apologize openly for my anger.


Maybe you should be on this site as an end user instead of your obvious conflict of interest with your business.

You opened the door, I barged in.

If you notice, I clearly state that my opinions are just that, opinions. So libel is not even a close call here.

You asked for backup, I gave it to you, you are still whinin dude, still whinin, and im still pissin.
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All right Pete, maybe my panties are in a bunch, and it had alot to do with your rep at the show.

But libel, cmon dude, settle down.

If it helps, I retract my comments in regards to your shop, and apologize openly for my anger.


Maybe you should be on this site as an end user instead of your obvious conflict of interest with your business.

You opened the door, I barged in.

If you notice, I clearly state that my opinions are just that, opinions. So libel is not even a close call here.

You asked for backup, I gave it to you, you are still whinin dude, still whinin, and im still pissin.
My only big hang up Squiddler was the way you spoke of the Conservation Raffle. As I said, it's a pretty serious accusation.

Again I apologize for your interaction with one of the guys. We're a pretty social bunch for the most part.

And I'm done with the economics discussion. At least in this thread. I'll try and keep it in the Scuppers in the future. I know I have a tendency to hijack threads. There's several people I seriously argue and debate with in some threads but we do hang out, talk fishing, and have fun together regardless. I like to debate stuff, it's just my nature.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:03 PM   #13
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My only big hang up Squiddler was the way you spoke of the Conservation Raffle. As I said, it's a pretty serious accusation.

Again I apologize for your interaction with one of the guys. We're a pretty social bunch for the most part.

And I'm done with the economics discussion. At least in this thread. I'll try and keep it in the Scuppers in the future. I know I have a tendency to hijack threads. There's several people I seriously argue and debate with in some threads but we do hang out, talk fishing, and have fun together regardless. I like to debate stuff, it's just my nature.
I know i said last post on this topic, but had to comment on this particular quote...

I was angry, spouting off at the mouth, and I should have tempered my comments.

I thank Pete for being a man and apologizing. We will beg to differ, I guess, but no more barbs, I promise Pete.
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