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02-24-2006, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 14
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it is.
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02-24-2006, 07:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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The one thing I hate about NE is the people resist change of anykind. They really do. They don't care if it makes life better or worse, just keep it like it was. They are afraid of the unknown...what might happen. This ranges from everything from politics to various regional issues and even fishing tourneys.
I have heard comments like "why do we have to change it, I am use to it the way it is" To me, that is the most silly statement in the world and illustrates what is really wrong. Joe is right, there are many that would like to go back in time!!
I asked someone once how on earth could you support Ted Kennedy given his background even if you are a democrat, I said surely there is a better democrat out there that can do this job..."Well, he has had the job for so long I figure he knows how to do it" This is the mindset of the NE'er. Static. It amazes me we have the best Universities in the nation yet the general public is pretty stupid.
This fishing contest is harmless. Jesus! It is just a fishing contest and GOD FORBID someone actually make any profits from it!!! It is not a sin to make money and have fun at the same time. Corp greed?! Give me a break!
The reason for a $2500 fee is that it keeps the regular "Joe Sixpack" from entering because he would rather buy a big screen TV with that kind of money. Only sponsored fishermen and bigshots who don't care how much it costs will pony up that kind of coin. There are plenty of Joe Sixpack contests around here if he wants to fish them with entry fees in the sub 50 buck range. You think you are a "pro"? Well then pay the $2500 bucks, afterall it is a tax write off! (only if you have any winnings!)
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02-24-2006, 07:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: OUTDOORS/ Fairhaven,Ma.
Posts: 1,989
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Oh the wisdom of age!!! Thank you Sandman there is so much truth to that post. Now if all you late comers would please just go away and stop fishing all the spots I have been going to for 40 years now I can get back to the way it was. No preppy attitudes twards this being MY spot or his spot its a fishing spot. Sandman you and Cape Sam can run MV and the cape east of the cannal. I will run Cuttyhunk and south west of the cannal to CT. The rest of the coast I have not fished so I will leave that to anyone that wants it.  By the way anyone here that has fished with me or gone to Cuttyhunk with me knows that this means anyone at anytime can fish anywere from the cannal to CT. so long as you be sure to have fun catch fish and clean up after your self. Now back to the FLW come on down and I will help to make you feel at home. And as others do sell you a few choice places to fish in Newport and Block Island what is the going rate for a story on a spot in one of the local fish mags. or tackle shops ??????? 
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21' striper D/C Yamaha 150 HPDI named PLAIN JANE
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02-24-2006, 08:31 AM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
Posts: 3,275
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I think it is a double edged sword... Bad, it will put more pressure on the fish.
Good, it will give our sport more exposure. It will generate more revenue for the local shops, can't get fresh saltwater bait or custom wooden plugs at Wallyworld. It will generate revenue for the hotels and resturants and bars in the area of the tournament. It may help get gamefish status for the Striped Bass for those who want it. It will generate more traffic on Striped-Bass. MOST IMPORTANTLY It will expose more kids to fishing and possibly get them hanging around with a fishing rod and possibly an adult who will provide them a posiitve influence rather than hanging around getting into trouble down town.
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02-24-2006, 08:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Falmouth
Posts: 269
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I don't see how a boat tournament will effect beach fisherman in any way at all, or add trash and area closes.
I also highly doubt this is going to add hundreds of new boaters sitting on our spots every weekend. With a steep entry fee only people who know what they are doing are going to enter these tournaments for the most part. I have chartered for years, fished commercially and have fished many tournaments and the last thing I want to do is show up right next to a bunch of weekend warriers and have them follow me around all day. If they show up on my spot, I leave so they don't get my exact numbers, then I go back after they figure there is no fish there. I can't tell you how many times I have fished a rip with 5 other charter boats and when the regular boats show up, we all power up and go back 20 minutes later.
Good tournament fisherman are more concerned on YOU being in thier spot than vice versa. A-lot of the boats in these tournaments won't be new boats, but boats that would be fishing anyway IE. Commercial & Charter boats. These tournaments are also going to be spread out in different locations so there won't be heavy pressure on any one spot.
I would rather see a commercial guy fish a tournament and kill 2 fish for his prize money than 40 fish for the market.
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02-24-2006, 09:59 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Runner
I would rather see a commercial guy fish a tournament and kill 2 fish for his prize money than 40 fish for the market.
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I would hate to see a commercial guy keep the 40 something pounder he got the day before and enter it in on the first day of the tourney. I'm not saying that most or even some commercials (or recs for that matter) would do it but is has probably happened in the past more than once - what is to say it would not happen again??
I know this a touchy subject and I certainly do not mean it to be so but I would have less concern if commercial license holders were not able to participate in a tournament during that commercial season. For example, Mass legs could not occur during Mass comm season, RI legs could not occur during RI season and so forth.
Again, not trying to fuel a flame, just an observation.
At $2500, too steep for S-B to consider but I have thought in the past of entering a Team S-B into some of these boat competitions, just so far have chosen not to do so...
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02-24-2006, 10:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Falmouth
Posts: 269
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John,
That's a very good point and couldn't agree more.
If this tournament kicks off, I hope the rules are clear are consistant for everyone. There was way too much cheating from a few individuals on ASA tour and I won't fish another ASA event.
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02-24-2006, 12:18 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Most of the pinhookers I know couldn't scrape together the $2500 entry fee. It's probably not a legitimate tax write-off for a commercial fisherman, unless you were to list "professional tournament fisherman" as your occupation. That, and a 47" minimum size, is gonna make this tourney a playground for the guys with 42' Bertrams 
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