Boats don't run on thanks - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

macojoe · 03-04-2006, 07:24 PM

Its a funny thing, I brought this very subject up 2 seasons ago, and was almost Castrated!!
The thought that I would ask for money was like I just murdered someone!
Now the gas has gone Thur the roof its OK??

Weather gas is $1 or $5 a gal, not all people are rich. I am a poor man in a rich mans sport!!
I have always made it clear that we all must share the expense! I have a few friends that are bad off, and they have gone fishing with me many times for free!! But always help out with the clean up!

I have had a guy (friend I thought) go fishing with me, brought no food, water, or anything! Not even a rod!
I supplied all (good thing I have extra on the boat) at the end of the day he had drank and eat all my food, broke a very special rod (I made for a friend that died) used up a bunch of tackle, and then held up a 5 gal bucket for Fluke, he said that was all he wanted.
Never offered me a dime, had to go could not stay for the clean up, and as for the rod, not even a sorry! Just well its a good thing you build rods you can make another for nothing.
Then got in his car and as he drove away said, "I will see you next time"

That was 3 years ago, and I have never seen him again, and if I ever do it will be too soon!

If you make it clear from the beginning the people that call you friend will always help out!!

nightfighter · 03-04-2006, 08:09 PM

It never hurts to discuss the gameplan during the invite. This would include where you expect to fish, how far that run will be, hmmm at X gallons per hour, we'll be burning about y gallons, aw we'll just fuel together, before we go out, (if possible, not on a 0400 departure though) The # of gallons you burn are definitely up for discussion. Some people don't know and still others need to be reminded what it takes to make things happen. Just look how pros like Bill and Juls handle it. There is a surcharge when they expect to be making a longer run offshore to chase tuna!
hey, a charter is different from entertaining clients, so you are entitled to invite "friends" to fish and share in the pieces that make the whole thing happen. If that means food and beverage, so be it. Delegate! You are the captain aren't you?

ProfessorM · 03-04-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by macojoe

If you make it clear from the beginning the people that call you friend will always help out!!

Hey buddy I got my wallet ready

Here flukey fluke.

macojoe · 03-04-2006, 08:25 PM

4 months to go!!

pete santini · 03-04-2006, 09:00 PM

In my 40 plus years of fishing I,ve been fortunare enough to be a guest on many boats in different locations worldwide. In my opinion its a privelege not a right to be invited on a boat. That being said i always make sure that my host is compensated for his or her generous offer of taking me fishing EVEN IF THEY WERE GOING ANYWAY he or she took the time to invite me I always try to give them fuel money, leave tackle plugs ,bait etc or at the very least bring lunch or buy dinner and drinks at the watering hole upon your return One could also reciprocate with a fishing trip on your or someone elses boat. Thats the way I was raised to be a gracious guest PETE SANTINI

Hooper · 03-05-2006, 11:51 AM

If I extend the invitation and it's my idea to get the boys together, I do not expect a dime.

If they approach meabout takin them out, my standard answer now is "I'd be happy to make the time to take you guys fishing, but I have to ask for some money to help with the fuel costs, it's gotten really bad at the fuel dock lately." And no one has ever had an issue with that.

I took a guy and his son out, he had been after me for quite some time to take them fishing. So I took the day off and we went out in pea soup Monomoy fog. I caught them their limit of really nice bass, bait, tackle, etc. and gave them 8 hours on the water. I felt the $20 at the end of the day was really kind of weak. That's when I developed the standard answer found above. Shame on me for not addressing it before the trip, but I have learned from that now.

We fish several tournaments each summer and our arrangement wiht my crew is I provide the boat, fuel, and all the tackle I have. They feed us, drink us, and cover all the entry fees including all the calcuttas. It works & I am comfortable with that.

The problem lies in when we win cash, which we have. I think I will start a thread on that come to think of it....... I think I have been too generous in the past....

Sea Dangles · 03-05-2006, 08:14 PM

What if you have a commercial license and the guest has helped you catch for the day.Is that payment enough?

Raider Ronnie · 03-05-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

What if you have a commercial license and the guest has helped you catch for the day.Is that payment enough?

Absolutely !!!
Thats what I do.
Even if we have a bad day, with not much fish caught and lots of gear lost, thats the deal!!!
So my bud here on this site (you know who you are)
No more hiding money in my truck after we have been out for the day and the day wasn't so good !!!

Then there's allways the guy you take out like a co/worker who came out cod fishing with me a few winters ago.
He knew the deal ahead of time (that i was selling)
Did little fishing and the next day at work, pissed and moaned behind my back that he wanted a cut !!!