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Homerun4 I troll my rigs from 3-4 knots and find that to be the best speed. Are you useing spinners on the rig? I put a spinner in front of each bait and find these rigs to out fish the others 3 to 1. If you do not know what I meen by the spinners let me know and I will post a picture. I also troll my umbrella rigs on 60# lead line this way I can control the depth,each color out puts the rig 5 feet down. You want to keep it just a few feet off the bottom in most cases. Also try a rig with shads or large 8" grub tails. Good luck and safe boating to you. GB
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