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like indanite said striaght out of the package (swap the hooks to vmc)works very well in normal conditons I use the loaded when I need to get it out futher.Imo red fins are the best minnow lure there is bone white has been the best color for me,before they produced that color I would scrape the crome to the bone,the bone white will out fish the regular white w/ the black stripe don't know why but it does.A striaght retreve will work as well as letting it sit on top then twich it in let it rest then twich be ready because it won't be a bump.
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