Upsetting encounter with the charter boat KAYMAN TOO

[JohnR]

Yes, I would like to here what Armand says as well.

SF - we're going to watch this thread pretty closely and if it does get out of hand, send it to purgatory.

At this point, if what happened happened and you folks contacted the CG then that is the path it should take. Pending action there (if there even is any) might be the time to bring it out more... I don't know you nor do I have an opinion either way as to the validity of this story, but your first post here in a thread like this and hearing that you have done the same on a few other boards makes me a little leary. Would it be different if you had a few hundred posts and a longer time member? Probably. Would it be different if Armand had posted this? Probably, as we know him a bit and hangs around here on occasion...

If the actions of the captian are at fault the CG might say something. Unfortunatley, if the client on the trip, mooned, threatened, and used racial remarks, that is pretty low on the clients part. Unfortunately, the captains probably don't do a psychological profile on their clients before boarding...

So, in a nutshell, welcome to S-B, but I'd rather see something a little more official than a first post bashing another captain.

There are good charter captains and bad charter captains, I'm pretty sure that all have had lousy clients at one point or another...

[piemma]

Well, so much for the S-B bed and breakfast.......

[Skitterpop]

I knew from the beginning post who Armand was. I`ve had only great interactions with him here in cyberspace.

Just this 1st post huge complaint thing. Granted the customers and maybe the captain did some very wrong things but from my point of view none of it would have ocurred if the charter boat wasn`t crowded in a area relatively void of boats because SK and company saw them taking a few fish.

Peace.... Mike

[Goose]

It sounds to me like the capt's actions could have been influenced by his party,,, that doesn't justify the Capt's actions nor anyone else's.
Seems that there where some ingnorant raceist who jumped to conclusions. We all know what its like on shore and water when minoritys who don't know fish addicate get to close...I can't *&^$# stand it! and thats not even my bread and butter.

[LeCounts1099]

I lean toward believing Armands' take here! It's all about the other Charter Captains' willingness to get intentionally close to the "invading" boat, that starts "war chants" on- board, esp. among the "outgoing" & flamboyant drinkers of the party! The Captain sets the tone, & here that setting the table was the game of bumper- boats he was playing! Sorry-- there's never any need to get within 30- 40 yards of another boat minimally, esp. not on the open Ocean!

I don't know this Charter boat, nor fish on boats North of Rhody myself... nor fish Cod in Winter as I'm Bass- obsessed!... But: how dumb and aggresive CAN Charter Captains get with "recs." with absolutely no justification?

I'm chunking in the Western Sound on anchor last June, & pulling up Bass between 12- 25 lbs. here & there. I see a largish Charter boat anchored a half- mile from me, & wondered how he might be doing, as I released a 25 lber on this afternoon trip. After re-baiting my lines & relaxing, lo and behold this 50 foot + Charter boat is steaming right for me, where I'm sitting in 50 feet of water in the middle of the Sound alone! He anchors 20 yards away!, uptide of me!!... and so his fares are drifting their chunks back into my anchor line & under my boat! We're the only 2 boats there for miles! Now his fares are caught on my anchor- line, & frustrated with me "blocking" their fishing... & so now they're yelling & cursing at me!! I'm ruining their fishing after all!

Point is: there was a time where the Charter guys "knew the score" of proper fishing behavior & even basic Seamanship & manners... and most of those who were lacking out there during non- peak boating times were the Rec. boats! But: that's all changed today, for whatever reason(s). Some Charter Captains literally do behave like you're on their Ocean! And yes, they do like to incite & encourage their fares to join in the "us vs. them" warfare!