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Old 03-24-2006, 03:15 PM   #1
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What I've been doing is Looking up a Vehicle on their web-site, looking at what they're asking as compared to the KBB Retail, then looking up the same vehicle's Trade-in value (figuring thats what they paid for it, roughly) to see the difference. I'm figuring there should be a percentage of the Difference that I can target.

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Old 03-24-2006, 03:57 PM   #2
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I knew a used car manager who usually started anywhere from $1800 up to $6500 over his cost. He did this to cover himself because he never knew what shop charges would be to make it safe and sound.

If he got a great deal on a trade or auction buy he could be way over his base cost to cover all the times the other new car managers buried him in a trade which happens often...even when the customer thinks they got screwed. The new and used car market is extremely poor right now.

Kellys or Edmunds is consistently way over what dealers offer for trades, especially now. The used car market is flooded with leased cars 2,3,4,and 5 years old with low miles...better than most trade ins.

They offer loan or ACV as MAC said.

As far as buying preowned private sales are higher priced still because people want BLUE BOOK that they couldn`t get at the dealer. You could buy the same model.color, and mileage for rather large differences in prices. Depends what they own it for and how aggressive they are to get a sale.

So....work it for all your worth.

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Old 03-24-2006, 04:14 PM   #3
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I just bought a 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition. Right now the market is really slow for used trucks, and big Suv's. With the price of gas, and the lower prices of some new trucks, sometimes it just makes sense to go new. My cousin's husband sells, and he told me to low ball them and see how they respond, that will tell you how firm their number is. I went ot one dealer who had the truck in a different color. He wanted 26900. It had the same options, and mileage plus or minus a couple hundred. I offered him 19000, and my 97 with 137000 miles, and he told me to pound sand. So I searched on autotrader .com, and found like 300 of them in a 75 mile radius. After some emails, I went in to test drive the one I got. They originally had it on the lot at 29900. When I went to test it they had it at 26900. They gave it to me for 21900, then gave me 3000 for my old one, final price 18900. The other dealer still had the first truck a week later when I went in for an inspection sticker with my new one, he was not happy.

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Old 03-24-2006, 04:24 PM   #4
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I bought my truck last aug. it is a used 02 Chevy, I traded my 98 Ford.
I looked up the trade on Kelly (I think they are the closest) and printed it out and brought to the dealer with me.
They were asking $21,000 for the Chevy, and the Ford had a book of $6000, they offered me They offered me $4000. I showed them the Kelly print out and they went to $5000 saying I needed new ball joints and had a leak in the exhust.
I did not want to pay more then $15,000 for the truck and they had me down to $16,000
In the end we meet half way and I payed $15,500
But with out that print out I would have been doomed to the $4000 or so.
My truck has a Retail Vaule on Kelly right now of $18,740

If they no want to meet with you go some were else, They are hurting right now and they willing to make some good deals!

I have a year service with carfax, if you find something get the VIN # and PM me I will run it for you and send you the report!

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Old 03-24-2006, 05:24 PM   #5
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a good test is

to stick your bird finger (longest)
into the tail pipe and hope it comes out brown
and not black....which means oils gettin by the
pistons....brown ....and its a decent engine.
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:44 PM   #6
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Carfaxes sent!!

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