Anybody get their On The Water yet? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 09:51 AM

Sets the tone for being way more careful with any fish being released.

Seems there is room for a more detailed study for Stripers though.

Questions:

Do all bass who die from ill effects of catch and release float? If not then they are food for many ocean creatures and we would never see them to know they passed on.

Do seals eat injured, dying, or dead stripers? I know lots of birds do.

I release about 99.999999% of bass I catch and try to be careful always but do wonder on ones I clip the line with hook in gut or even a torn lip or bleeding gill....though they seem to revive ok and swim off.

How about when you catch a bass which has been hooked a few times and you see all the redness and even deteriorating sores from being hooked. Or the deformation of the jaw line from the same.

Always much to think about and consider.

Skitter

Squibby17 · 03-28-2006, 10:16 AM

I read that article yesterday as well. As sandman said, I think that many people under estimate the tough ness of the Striped Bass. I can under stand A large Bass being held up for an extended amount of time could suffer some internal injuries. However to say a bass under 5 lbs would die from being held verticaly for 12 second while removing the plug is with all due respect "ridiculous" Alot of the places I fish are rough with tons of white water and rocks and boulders which I know cause stripers to get bumped and bruised but that doesnt seem to stop them. I attached a picture of my friend holding a striper he caught last october and you can see that part of the tail is cut off, but this fish appeared healthy and had no problem attacking his eel.

I will try and avoid handeling fish improperly. I think the article made alot of good points about the slim coat on stripers which protects them and many fishing googans might not be aware of it. If your on aboat and can use a net and keep the fish in the water, I'm in support of that as well.

Just my .02

DZ · 03-28-2006, 10:30 AM

Thanks Jim.

I've also been biting my tounge on this thread.
If what the article said is fact - I'm sure many striped bass marine biologists would have jumped on this issue long ago.

There is "C&R mortality" but from my perspective - not to that extent.

Just my opinion.

DZ

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 10:45 AM

Not to be a thread killer here but this is good discussion. Anyone remember the specifics of Paul Diodati's mortality study, lo so many years ago? He documented an 8% C&R mortaility on striped ones. If in the process of weighing them and handling them if they handled them in this way, wouldn't the mortality rate go way beyond the 8%?

I have not read the article yet so I can only go by some of what I see in this thread and I have not read anything beyond a summary of Diodati's study and that has been a few years on that..

Just thinking...

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Not to be a thread killer here but this is good discussion. Anyone remember the specifics of Paul Diodati's mortality study, lo so many years ago? He documented an 8% C&R mortaility on striped ones. If in the process of weighing them and handling them if they handled them in this way, wouldn't the mortality rate go way beyond the 8%?

I have not read the article yet so I can only go by some of what I see in this thread and I have not read anything beyond a summary of Diodati's study and that has been a few years on that..

Just thinking...

You are right on John. They had a tank and hooked then released then studied the bass for weeks afterward. And how many time have you caught bass with a leader and a gut hook in it that just ate your plug or, in the good ol days of just last year for many, your herring?

Again, the bass is just a different animal with different physical qualities that make able to survive the stresses of living and feeiding in the very turbulant and rough world of the inter-tidal zone.

Jenn · 03-28-2006, 11:14 AM

I am still waiting for my issue.......

spence · 03-28-2006, 11:27 AM

From everything I've read it would seem that it's a pretty complicated equation.

Even taking the 8% number, you could assume that since it represents a lot of "poor" handling of fish...that those who practice good CnR would be much, much lower.

Even weighing the fish, buy the lip or in the gills could have dramatically different results.

I don't think natured ever intented a 40lb bass to be hung by it's lower lip for even a moment...this can't be good for larger fish.

I'll have to read the article so I can comment directly...

-spence