Immigration and Illegal aliens

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I would like to see the companies that have hired the illegals over the year fined and have their names made public - companies and the people in positions at those companies that hired them. I'm sure the list would be long and startling...
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Here here you got that right John

I can't stand that honest companies continue to lose jobs and bids to unscrupulous companies that hirs illegals. Pretty soon we will give up fighting them and join them, God I hope that doesn't happen But if customers are more aware of what goes on, maybe some of them will stay away from the low bidders and get the job done right by hiring by the book companies.

I don't mind immigrants either, as long as they do it right and not sneak over the border like when the are in labor just to have their baby in an American hospital so they can recieve our benefits and suck on our governments tits, you don't think that happens Zacs?

[Slipknot]

wow, that really sucks bigcat, sorry to hear that.

[BigBo]

Pretty interesting given the date;

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in
good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be
treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to
discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or
origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an
American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one
flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes
all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any
foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one
language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but
one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1919

[MakoMike]

Vic,
No offense but my grandfather went through much the same thing as your neighbor and still he took the time to lear English and make his family learn English. Neither my father nor my mother or either set or granparents spoke a word of english when they came to America. Yet it didn't take very long for them to learn it. They wouldn't teach me Italian, for fear that I would grow up and speak English with an accent (Dumb Wops )

[bart]

I believe that if you come to this country it should be your responsibility to learn the English language. I've worked with many hispanic people when i was a mover, and yes they have incredible work ethic, but not being able to communicate with them really hindered our ability to work as a team. they couldn't communicate with the customer or with other employees, and this was a big deal when handling heavy pieces of furniture. I see this all the time in other business settings as well. how are you going to accomplish anything with someone who can't even understand what you're saying? having a common language only seems like common sense to me...

[BigBo]

My wife is asian and she came to the US 33 years ago. She had to learn the language real quick to be self sufficient in everyday things we take for granted. You can now request to take your drivers exam in your own foreign language. What are they going to do when they can't read the road signs? It's time to sign into law that english is the official language of the US before it costs this country billions of dollars to have multi-language road signs, multi-language school teachings, etc, etc, etc. It really pisses her off to see the new breed of immigrants (legal/illegal) coming to the US with no desire to learn english. Many (not any race in particular) are here just to work for a while, filter that money back to their own country to support sending the rest of their extended family here. I see the middle class Americans loosing out here in the job market because employers in certain demographic areas are reluctant to hire english speaking only employees. The other thing employers pull, which is wrong, is to hire illegals through temp agencies. This way, they can say;"Our hands are clean. We had no idea that this agency was hiring illegal aliens".
I have no problem whatsoever with LEGALimmigration. Stop it now before it is impossible to stop in the very near future!

[zacs]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

you don't think that happens Zacs?

I do think it happens. But I think they are the minority, not the majority. I think they majority are working knee deep in chicken guts, or bending over 14 hrs a day picking your fruit.

I think they are greatful to be here, and they would be happy to call themselves american, pay taxes, and speak the language.