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Old 04-07-2006, 08:59 PM   #1
Rob Rockcrawler
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When my grandfather came over from austria in 1916 with his family the rule was that when you are outside the house you speak english, and they didnt know much when the ship arrived. I remeber him telling a couple of spanish speaking women his story at the local grocery store in a not very plaesant tone and i was shocked because i was like 14, now i think it was a good thing, maybe they took the hint and learned to speak english in public. Funny that the European Union has made english its official language but we havent. Some of our fearless leaders have talked bout an amendment to ban gay marriage but not too much talk bout one for a national language. Yet another case of jaded priorities.
Also, when it comes to making illegals felons, while i think it warants a felony charge would be the cost of jailing the felons. Imagine 5 million more people in our jails, prisions, or even the legal system. The tab that would fall on our shoulders would be billions of dollars of more debt that undoubtedly would be bought up by the chinese.

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Old 04-08-2006, 08:02 AM   #2
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While i see a lot of talk about making illegal immigrants felons, how about the American Citizens that hire the illegal immigrants?? The people that hire them are the problem. They line their pockets with cash from the underpaid illegal workers, usually don't help them when hurt on the job, pay no taxes on these wages,pay no overtime, and drive down the wages in their industries. The restaurant industry that i work in is overrun with illegal workers. If they were all deported, my wages would probably double in no time. Despite this I'm still for their cause 100%! If i was born in Mexico or guatemala, and could get into America illegally for a better life/wages for my family and i , i would do so in a heart beat. I doubt anyone here put in someones shoes in guatemala , would not do the same legal or not. Concerning them learning to speak english, how do you expect them to sit in a classroom and learn english right away when they are out working 100 hours at 2-3 jobs for $8??SOmeone (illegal) working loads of hours doesnt have any right to any public assistance, schooling or medical care when making the americans that hire them tons of $$$$?? But, a american citizen can sit on their butt, pop out a kid every few years, not work, and get free housing, food and medical care, and have their drug dealing bf move in and pay no rent and thats OK?

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