Gas, the war, and our future... this makes you think!

[seabass]

Very Interesting, Skip, where does this pro- Bush attitude stem from, show me the weapons of mass destruction, show Osama, please show me something that will make me feel like the man isn't a Napolean complex, power hungry, greedy , murderous man, I want to believe. Please put up these links so I can sleep good and be proud of these politicians.

[Nebe]

sleep tight seabass
http://www.cal-tv.net/imaginethis.html

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by seabass

Very Interesting, Skip, where does this pro- Bush attitude stem from, show me the weapons of mass destruction, show Osama, please show me something that will make me feel like the man isn't a Napolean complex, power hungry, greedy , murderous man, I want to believe. Please put up these links so I can sleep good and be proud of these politicians.

Show Osama? Werent you the guy who thought Bush carried out 9/11? So why would you care about Osama anyway, in your mind he did nothing and is innocent.

And do you really want to get into the WMD issue yet again? Its a known FACT that Saddam used them on his own people. But i'm sure in your little world that never happend right? You just like to ignore that little fact because it doesnt fit your agenda of "Bush Lied" about WMD's. I guess Saddam never had those WMDS and murdered his own people right buddy?

Just go back and live in your Bush is just like Hitler world and leave us the hell alone. Although i would like to know who Bush Murdered just for the sake of killing them. I wish you only had some hatred toward the true enemys in this world, you know those nice al queada guys you prob have no problem with. The real enemy is Al queada and radical Islam. It would be nice if you had a litte hatred towards them. But you only hate Bush.

[Flaptail]

As bad as Saddam was, it might have been more fortuitous for the United States Government to "deal with the devil" in order to obatain and maintain the "lifeblood" of our economy and way of life. I am sure we could have done that and done it without the knowledge of the general public of whom 80% don't have a clue anyway as to the form and function of international/global politics.

Personally after reading this it comes out even clearer how our President is a f%ck up. You scratch my back I will scratch yours should never be dismissed as a viable option when it comes to keeping our country's best interests at the fore.

Getting the desired result in business or politics is not always pretty but if the desired result nevertheless is achieved for the betterment of the general population, this being us rather than them, than you have to go for. Ideals sometimes have to take a back seat.

A mob boss could have gotten it done better. Nothing personal strictly business.

George W. blew it.

[Joe]

Now we got Iran, and we are faced with limited military options and the 100% certainty of impending sanctions that will only drive up the price of oil more.

What do we do? Nuke Iran because we're low on options because we're overextended in Iraq? Then we will see state-sponsored terrorism in this country.

When (not if) the UN imposes sanctions against Iran, we will see a quick spike to $5 at the pump. We may see $6.

[Raven]

but that sounds overly pesimistic...( 5-6 dpg) because iran only exports 14%
of our oil to us...and they have virtually no gasoline refineries so we can starve them for gas essentially, when they pull some crap...

what that 14 % translates to gas increases here is anyone's guess.

but Iran is NOT afraid of the USA and we need to make them afraid.
with them...it's no more MR nice GUY anymore.

[Bliz]

I'm not sure it's as much the President, as much as it may be his advisors...

But nonetheless, wherever the true blame lies in all of this, I think we are in a very precarious situation when it comes to our stretegic position in world politics with regard to our economic future as a world power.

As the article had mentioned, this could have a profound impact upon our future sovereignty as a nation.

We really need to pray for our leaders, as we need some creative direction as to navigate our way out of the current course in which we are heading.

I think that in dealing with the core issues, we need to go beyond the ideals of party affiliation.

As democrats and republicans battle, it is our nation that suffers.

[Raven]

that it takes a major disaster like 9-11 which in essense was an act of war to bring both sides of the political arena to the table with a mutual
cooperative attitude.

[Bliz]

You're right about the gas prices Joe.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better...

[Raven]

but double the current price from 3 to 6 sounds rather steep considering that iran only exports 14 % of our foriegn oil was my point.... i think hurricanes and their destructive force are more of a threat to our present day refineries than is IRAN not speaking from a military stance....though... fighting a war with iran would be a BEAR

[Skip N]

The ENTIRE world needs to take action against Iran if needed. Why must the US always save everyones freakin asses from radicals. I wish the rest of the world were'nt a bunch of Pussies. Hey France, how 'bout a little help once in a while aye? To many countries try to be nice to murderous tyrants. Makes me sick


And Bush kissing the freakin ass of that Chinese Commi at the White House Yesterday made me sick. Props to that Chinese protester who said what needed to be said to that Commi pig.