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Old 04-27-2006, 07:08 AM   #61
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I would wager that the small degree of accountability that comes with having to sign your name to your statements would lead to a less threatening environment. Lurkers would be more apt to join in.
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I think the accountability thing is BS. Only in those idiotic times of flaming threads do i wish the person was standing in front of another when the offenses are typed out.
As far as info like i said it is up to the user to beware.The only way to really learn anything is by doing it urself anyways.
Lurkers Lurk.They obviously don't wish to add.Boy what a surprise.
A bassman is keeping a secret.I have many friends who read the boards they think I'm nuts.I'm from the skool where u had to earn ur stripes.But I got diarrhea of the mouth or keyboard.
Joe I used to like u.I have shopped at ur INTERNET store.An used to read ur articles religiously.U have Changed lately.Almost as if someone else is posting on ur computr.Whats the deal??
Maybe its me.I love this thing.I enjoy the back an forth.Like I had with Manzi.Where's he at when u need him.Sea Dangles is sorta a worthy opponent but Mentally inept, an still no match for the NIB.
He an Spence Hit it off well though.

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Old 04-27-2006, 07:25 AM   #62
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This is an interesting thread. For the moment, I'm going to stay out of it other then to answer the initial question.

Somewhat obviously, a forum where we had to use our real names wouldn't really bother me. Not only do I use my real name but everyone knows where to find me...

As long as I can remember though, since I've been online, I rarely use my real first name. And that's going back almost 2 decades. Anonymity on the Internet is more tradition then anything else, in many cases.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:27 AM   #63
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I basically agree with NIB. I don't get the difference between someone reading my post, and them saying Charlie M is a doofus or if I posted under another name and they thought I was a doofus. I would still be a doofus. Do whats right cause its right, not cause the internet might think you just start e-wars or you kiss ass looking for acceptance or to build up your e-resume.

And no one on the internet is anonymous.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:36 AM   #64
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Actually, now that I know...I can tell

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What the hell are you talking about Iowa boy?...

Besides, no one listens to spence, Iowa hasnt been oceanfront for 65Million years......

Accountability is what you make of it, I offer advice up, take it or leave it.... you tend to figure out who has 'water cred' and who doesnt....

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Old 04-27-2006, 07:37 AM   #65
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Maybe its me.I love this thing.I enjoy the back an forth.Like I had with Manzi.Where's he at when u need him.Sea Dangles is sorta a worthy opponent but Mentally inept, an still no match for the NIB.
He an Spence Hit it off well though.

Hahaha. We need to have a "Celebrity Fight Night" between Dangles and NIB. Maybe a live chatroom format.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:44 AM   #66
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I am the Greatest.
Float like a butterfly
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Nobody does it like the N-I-B

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Old 04-27-2006, 07:47 AM   #67
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Quote NIB "Joe I used to like u.I have shopped at ur INTERNET store.An used to read ur articles religiously.U have Changed lately.Almost as if someone else is posting on ur computr.Whats the deal??"
Fear not NIB - this is as close to the edge as I'll go....I should just get a Corvette and a girlfriend

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Old 04-27-2006, 07:50 AM   #68
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Any info. I give is generally so useless, I wouldn't want anyone to know my real name
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:57 AM   #69
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Fear not NIB - this is as close to the edge as I'll go....I should just get a Corvette and a girlfriend

Well I hope Not I Still consider u a asset to this forum.
Even thou I think sometimes post when ur meds ware off.

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Old 04-27-2006, 08:07 AM   #70
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Old 04-27-2006, 08:25 AM   #71
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What John said. Don't believe what you read online unless you know the author, don't take anything too seriously As far as screen names, Back Beach in my real first and last name. My parents are Rocky and Sandy.
And I suppose your mothers maiden name was roads?

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Old 04-27-2006, 08:26 AM   #72
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:06 AM   #73
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I guess about 9 years ago when I took the name Saltheart for fishing sites , everyone was signing up with cool internet names. I had friends who called me Saltheart do to all the sailing I did as early as 1983 so i also used it as my internet fishing name. After almost a decade , people know who I am so there's no hiding behind a neame.

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Old 04-27-2006, 09:48 AM   #74
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I guess about 9 years ago when I took the name Saltheart for fishing sites , everyone was signing up with cool internet names. I had friends who called me Saltheart do to all the sailing I did as early as 1983 so i also used it as my internet fishing name. After almost a decade , people know who I am so there's no hiding behind a neame.
That is interesting because if you remember back to the day when a lot of us first started to meet online (WMI) a lot of the "Joe Q" names were sucked up, Mike P, Dave S, Mike S, John R (go figure), etc... As we were known by these names a lot of 'em just stuck and we often used the same names on multiple sites as that was what were were known by... So for some, these annonymous names were used because even then some of the "Joe Q"s were already taken... I think there was a Mike W back then too...

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Old 04-27-2006, 09:57 AM   #75
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Back when John, Saltheart, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and the rest of us "originals" stumbled on that WMI site, misinformation used to bother me a lot more than it does now. Led to some nasty flame wars.

Now, I figure, why bother. Unless someone's blathering BS will get a reader hurt or worse, I just figure, let them find out for themselves--it ain't worth it. Most of the time anyway. Sometimes I still yield to temptation

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Old 04-27-2006, 10:51 AM   #76
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" Experience is the greatest teacher" I think much of the misinformation that does get passed comes from well meaning but inexperienced newbies. I have seen on another site where almost everynew member seems to be new to the surf game. They will ask for help and its usually supplied by a guy whom has been fishing the beach for 4 years and his biggest fish is a 'fat' 33"er. I've been fishing the surf since the mid-seventies and still learn every time I go out. I will offer advice if I am 100% sure or if it just an opinion. I'm always mindful of the adage 'what works well for me just might get you killed'.I'm Tony and crow comes from my last name.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:42 AM   #77
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I must admit that NIB has a sort of grout and trowel intellect that I find refreshing,probably the result of an idle mind.Do you whistle a lot NIB?Judging from my personal experience I think Joe probably just got some good bud.

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Old 04-27-2006, 12:33 PM   #78
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Thats it.?
Ur a regular Inspector Clueso
U looked at my profile an came up with that beauty.
Ha Ha HA.
U know what we call C Dangles.
It's the little string connected to a tampon.
Joe BUD No way.
He's way too bland.Man.
I wanted to Be Tony G but some Old Man already had it.I just followed over wit NIB as I spread the love.

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Old 04-27-2006, 01:06 PM   #79
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I just followed over wit NIB as I spread the love.
And I'm sure the National Industries for the Blind appreciates your care and support.

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Old 04-27-2006, 02:21 PM   #80
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I agree with Mike P. we used to jump on the misinformation. Then there was so much of it by so many different people and it very often ends up in a war. Add that to us mellowing out a lot and now , a lot gets by.

The newbies giving mis info is a two part problem. Some newbies think they know it all after one trip to the shore with their father. That type is a pain in the Butt and most eventually get kicked out of serious fishing sites like this and end up experts within a small group of other newby heavy sites. Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing!

Some think that they might actaully know something unique and are honestly trying to be helpful to other total beginners. . Once they realize there are people around with 30 , 40 , 50 years under their belt , I think they tend to read more and post misinformation less and eventually become good contributors.

Anyway , user beware!! Don't ever risk life and limb on internet info.

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Old 04-27-2006, 03:07 PM   #81
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I thought the fake name was the way to go...never crossed my mind to use my real name on the interblab...Slingah is because all I used to do was sling eels...didnt see anyone else with the name so I used it.
Its weird when someone calls me Slingah...dont really like it. My real name is Matt......but JohnR you can call me Don
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #83
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[QUOTE=Saltheart]I Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing!

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He was my favorite. Tuna fishing from the banks of the canal and his walking the dog technique were two of my favorite topics.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:01 PM   #84
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I Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing!

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He was my favorite. Tuna fishing from the banks of the canal and his walking the dog technique were two of my favorite topics.
He just had a brief but spectacular comeback stint over on SOL. He went down in flames again, and I'm really not sure why

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Old 04-27-2006, 05:21 PM   #85
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I think you'd be surprised at how many of the old school living legends lurk the forums. Some say that they learn a thing or two new. Some say that they can pick out the young-uns no prob. All those who sit and listen do so in anonyminity because they don't want to get "lectured" by someone who A: they don't know and B: someone who's full of it. I'm grateful to those who have joined us and who have given their knowledge. Just remember that when someone says something and you don't agree, there's a couple of reasons that you don't agree. You may be thinking in absolutes, and there are NONE in the surf. And you may NOT have experienced the total truth of that subject. What ever it is,it is in most bad form to shout LIAR at another man. It insults him to the core and disgusts those listening in. And that is where I see most Flame Wars coming from. Just some things to think about..

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I started at the WMI site in its later days. Most people there used their name and last initial so I did the same. (Plus the fact that I apparently have no imagination.)


[QUOTE=Crow I have seen on another site where almost everynew member seems to be new to the surf game. They will ask for help and its usually supplied by a guy whom has been fishing the beach for 4 years and his biggest fish is a 'fat' 33"er. [/QUOTE]

A short while ago I saw a post on another site where a guy said he caught his first bass ever after 2 or 3 years or so of trying. A few weeks later I saw him posting fishing advice.

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A short while ago I saw a post on another site where a guy said he caught his first bass ever after 2 or 3 years or so of trying. A few weeks later I saw him posting fishing advice.
I've seen them go from asking questions followed by rejecting sound advice, then complaining for years that they can't catch a keeper and then to being Forum Leaders and Moderators. On the Internet ANYTHING is possible
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I rate things from 1 to 5, Five being very very rare and usually acompanied with a tablet of stone where you can see the chisel marks... There are many more ones than fives....

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Somebody already had Chris L so I just used my initials.
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I think you'd be surprised at how many of the old school living legends lurk the forums. Some say that they learn a thing or two new. Some say that they can pick out the young-uns no prob. All those who sit and listen do so in anonyminity because they don't want to get "lectured" by someone who A: they don't know and B: someone who's full of it. I'm grateful to those who have joined us and who have given their knowledge. Just remember that when someone says something and you don't agree, there's a couple of reasons that you don't agree. You may be thinking in absolutes, and there are NONE in the surf. And you may NOT have experienced the total truth of that subject. What ever it is,it is in most bad form to shout LIAR at another man. It insults him to the core and disgusts those listening in. And that is where I see most Flame Wars coming from. Just some things to think about..
Thats it man I will slap you with a herring and challenge you to a plug swimming trading duel

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Thats it man I will slap you with a herring and challenge you to a plug swimming trading duel
Curiously, I think I'd like that

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