A Day Without Immigrants!

[BigFish]

Your first post on page 3 says it quite plainly....or maybe I just can't read? 50...80...relative to what???....Don't throw numbers around when you don't have them nailed down....if you don't have the facts then don't post the info!

You throw out "ballpark" numbers and our facts are not straight???? Come on Spence.....wish you had the ability to correst your comments right about now?

[Karl F]

No Worries Skittah.... redman sold the whiteman Manhattan for 26 bucks and some beads, and been getting shafted for years, yes... but...... gonna win the whole thing back a thousand fold at the casinos... Ka-Ching .... stiffy... you say that till ya get yer casino... then it'll be come on down suckah ...

all my relatives came thru Eliis Island, early 1900's... but I get grouped into the blame for Indians troubles and Slaves troubles.. nice deal.. my ancestors was endutured servants all over Europe.. My Grandfather had to do his tour of duty for the army, plus all of his father's boss's kids time.. then work off his dad's debt to the landowner.. then he hightailed it for USA, figgered it had to be better, never looked back...

jnski.. good points... and health care ins. is going up quicker than gasoline... cause of the insured, picking up the tab for the uninsured...

[spence]

I don't think you can read...you're the one who said

The illegal immigrants are benifiting from this country and they do not contribute anything in return.

Which is simply absurd...

Regarding tax contributions. I freely admit my statement was based on potentially pro-immigration comments I heard, and as such I don't know how it was computed...

But that doesn't diminish its relative merrit, as I not arguing there's parity...Rather that illegal workers do make a substantial tax contribution. There's no need for a correction, and I've freely added the proper context.

I have read that it's estimated illegals pay up to 7 Billion in Social Security taxes alone yearly, and this doesn't factor in Medicare, state, sales or property taxes which would add considerably. Much of this they see no benefit from.

Nor does it calculate the benefit you receive from potentially low wage workers helping to deliver services and products at a lower cost to you because of a lower standard of living or other basic care being subsidized by other people...

You're still dodging the issue, illegals do contribute and that has to be factored into the solution.

-spence

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by spence

I have read that it's estimated illegals pay up to 7 Billion in Social Security taxes alone yearly, and this doesn't factor in Medicare, state, sales or property taxes which would add considerably. Much of this they see no benefit from.
-spence

You dont think IF and WHEN they get amnest they will come looking for that 7 BILLION $$$$ which was paid into their BOGUS accts under bogus ss#s. Im thinking a first year ambulance chaser could win that case. Nice little nest egg for them I would say. "unclaimed $" that would have to be paid back.
I pay$400/mo for medical insurance(and am grateful to have it).. $30 co pay every time I visit my doctor. IF i get really sick, at some point Im sure I would be cutoff, maybe lose my house and everything else too.
These people walk,crawl,slither into ANY hospital and get free medical care, 24/7, its like a 7/11 to them. and thats not supposed to PI$$ me off ??

[spence]

Originally Posted by Tinman

You dont think IF and WHEN they get amnest they will come looking for that 7 BILLION $$$$ which was paid into their BOGUS accts under bogus ss#s.

Actually Tin, the IRS allows illegals to pay Social Security taxes legally using a special form.

-spence