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Old 05-02-2006, 09:50 AM   #1
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The coast guard get deployed in full force to round up, and deliver all illegals to Mexico, then they are assigned to gaurd the border.
That should get rid of all of the Illegals......

And the Bonus is the Price of Heroin and Cocaine will be WAY down as the Supply should Go WAY up because the Coast Guard is busy doing the INS's Job instead of patroling the Waters like they were intended to do. So it will be open season for the Drug Traffickers

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:54 AM   #2
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That should get rid of all of the Illegals......

And the Bonus is the Price of Heroin and Cocaine will be WAY down as the Supply should Go WAY up because the Coast Guard is busy doing the INS's Job instead of patroling the Waters like they were intended to do. So it will be open season for the Drug Traffickers
Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:57 AM   #3
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Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.
I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:58 AM   #4
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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:00 AM   #5
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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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HAHAHA, your redicluous comments don't even belong in this argument.
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:01 AM   #6
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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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No doubt... however this is typical...

If I were to apply for research money saying I'm going to do this without a how, when etc... it would get laughed at...
Congress can say 11Million people will get deported and our borders secured... but there is no How or when..... go figure....

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Oh come now, Scott has plenty of "How".

I'm sure his next idea will be to hire "Snake Plissken"

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:10 AM   #8
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Oh come now, Scott has plenty of "How".

I'm sure his next idea will be to hire "Snake Plissken"

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Lets here some of your ideas smart guy, so far you have made a fool out of yourself and the only time anyone acknowledges you is when you throw out childish comments like this one.
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I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....
Ofcourse you say it is BS, your commited to failure, you will never understand how it can be done.

We defend it the same way we invade countries. With military force, sure this sounds extreme . Every war we have ever fought sounded extreme.
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:13 AM   #10
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Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though?
Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.

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Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.
Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:34 AM   #12
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Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done

How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional

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How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional
Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders, you take them ALONG WITH The OTHER FORCES ( I put that in caps so you selective reading would pick it up) And asign them to our southern borders. You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.

And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:09 PM   #14
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Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders
No they are specifically trained for Seaport and Harbor Security (I Underlined and Bolded for your Selective reading Pleasure)

On 29 January 2003, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was asked, "The Coast Guard announced today [it is] sending eight cutters, 600 people, to the Persian Gulf, which I understand is the first time they have been dispatched to a combat zone since the Vietnam War. What's the thinking behind that, and what's their mission going to be?" General Myers answered, "For the Coast Guard, primarily for port and harbor and waterway security. That's what they do best."

This also from the US Coast Guard Web Site...its there Mission Statement

"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multi-mission, maritime service and one of the nation’s five Armed Services. Its mission is to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests – in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security."


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You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.
And this here makes sense take a unit that is specifically trained to operate on the Water and have THEM train the troops that were already trained to work on the ground. HAHAHAHAHAA!!


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And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Drugs come into this country by Air, Sea, and Land. Weakening one area to strengthen another does absolutely no good.

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Arrow they'd all be back in a week!

if you could wave a magic wand today...

and they were all gone... all back in mexico........

there is no stopping that force... a fence?
is a JOKE

there is only...... changing the law....

and Scot : going to war with mexico
would start a civil war here...
like we've never seen before...
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