A Day Without Immigrants!

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That should get rid of all of the Illegals......

And the Bonus is the Price of Heroin and Cocaine will be WAY down as the Supply should Go WAY up because the Coast Guard is busy doing the INS's Job instead of patroling the Waters like they were intended to do. So it will be open season for the Drug Traffickers

Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by ScottC

Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.

I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....

[spence]

Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

-spence

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by spence

Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

-spence

HAHAHA, your redicluous comments don't even belong in this argument.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

-spence

No doubt... however this is typical...

If I were to apply for research money saying I'm going to do this without a how, when etc... it would get laughed at...
Congress can say 11Million people will get deported and our borders secured... but there is no How or when..... go figure....

[spence]

Oh come now, Scott has plenty of "How".

I'm sure his next idea will be to hire "Snake Plissken"

-spence

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by spence

Oh come now, Scott has plenty of "How".

I'm sure his next idea will be to hire "Snake Plissken"

-spence

Lets here some of your ideas smart guy, so far you have made a fool out of yourself and the only time anyone acknowledges you is when you throw out childish comments like this one.

[spence]

Originally Posted by ScottC

Lets here some of your ideas smart guy, so far you have made a fool out of yourself and the only time anyone acknowledges you is when you throw out childish comments like this one.

I've made a fool out of myself? Oh please...

So far you've suggested we replace 11 million people with 2 million inmates, use the US Military for a domestic assult ala Afghanistan and Iraq and turn the border into a carnival shooting gallery.

I'd say the Snake Plissken comment was right in line, and damn funny to boot

-spence

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....

Ofcourse you say it is BS, your commited to failure, you will never understand how it can be done.

We defend it the same way we invade countries. With military force, sure this sounds extreme . Every war we have ever fought sounded extreme.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by ScottC

Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though?

Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.

Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by ScottC

Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done

How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional

[ScottC]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional

Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders, you take them ALONG WITH The OTHER FORCES ( I put that in caps so you selective reading would pick it up) And asign them to our southern borders. You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.

And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by ScottC

Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders

No they are specifically trained for Seaport and Harbor Security (I Underlined and Bolded for your Selective reading Pleasure)

On 29 January 2003, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was asked, "The Coast Guard announced today [it is] sending eight cutters, 600 people, to the Persian Gulf, which I understand is the first time they have been dispatched to a combat zone since the Vietnam War. What's the thinking behind that, and what's their mission going to be?" General Myers answered, "For the Coast Guard, primarily for port and harbor and waterway security. That's what they do best."

This also from the US Coast Guard Web Site...its there Mission Statement

"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multi-mission, maritime service and one of the nation’s five Armed Services. Its mission is to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests – in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security."

Originally Posted by ScottC

You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.

And this here makes sense take a unit that is specifically trained to operate on the Water and have THEM train the troops that were already trained to work on the ground. HAHAHAHAHAA!!

Originally Posted by ScottC

And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

Drugs come into this country by Air, Sea, and Land. Weakening one area to strengthen another does absolutely no good.

[RIROCKHOUND]

TDF;
Exactly...
The CG's have a tough enough job already...
Yeah they deal with illegals (cubans) who try and float over, but that is not their main gig!
I've had enough of this thread... circular logic is a waste of an argument!

[ScottC]

[QUOTE=The Dad Fisherman]No they are specifically trained for Seaport and Harbor Security (I Underlined and Bolded for your Selective reading Pleasure)

On 29 January 2003, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was asked, "The Coast Guard announced today [it is] sending eight cutters, 600 people, to the Persian Gulf, which I understand is the first time they have been dispatched to a combat zone since the Vietnam War. What's the thinking behind that, and what's their mission going to be?" General Myers answered, "For the Coast Guard, primarily for port and harbor and waterway security. That's what they do best."

This also from the US Coast Guard Web Site...its there Mission Statement

"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multi-mission, maritime service and one of the nation’s five Armed Services. Its mission is to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests – in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security."

And this here makes sense take a unit that is specifically trained to operate on the Water and have THEM train the troops that were already trained to work on the ground. HAHAHAHAHAA!!

Yes, they are specifically traind to guard borders, they are trained to search vessles, and read people on a face to face basis. just because a RV can't float don't not make it any different then a boat hahahah

So you think searching boats and land vehicles are different in some way hahahahaha. They are TRAINED TO FIND SMUGGLERS HAHAHA they have been dealing with similar problems on our coasts for decades, they can help train the national guard to deal with the new issues they will face

. So by your reasoing, Navy should not fly jets right? They should leave that to the Airforce correct? After all the navy it trained to fight on the water! HAHAHAHAH Let me guess, they coast guard need to be on ships to function right? Dude, your hilarious


Drugs come into this country by Air, Sea, and Land. Weakening one area to strengthen another does absolutely no good


Again, more proof of your selective reading, you take the troops that are in iraq and asign them to the borders, not take them from the seaports You are definetly the only one here with selective reading issues hahaha


Everything else I didn't bother addressing for obvious reasons.