pinholes in waders

[scoobe]

Ah, so you put the patch on the inside? I've always put my patches on the outside!

[rockyroady]

Any reason not to patch inside and outside for insurance?

[Pete_G]

I don't think there's any reason not to do both but on breathables I've almost always done the inside only. I find with the right repair product and a clean application it takes to the waders in a VERY permenant way.

Aquaseal and also a newer product called Loon UV Wader patch have always worked for me.

I have seen a few pairs of waders, my Simms being one of them, where the outside of the wader was much less receptive to glue then the inside. Maybe because of the tough nylon on the outside, I'm not sure. I think when they're new they have some sort of water repellant on them as well and I would think that would create issues as well for some glues as far as getting a good bonds. Old style canvas waders or neoprene that are the same inside and out you might as well do both for extra peace of mind.

[Skitterpop]

Pete

I think its teflon.

You talked of down time. Ordered 1/2 price boot foot waders from LL Bean Tuesday night....on my doorstep UPS this morning! Thats good service!

[Pete_G]

Finally figured out why my usual rubbing alcohol technique didnt work. The leak was actually in the neoprene part of the boot below where the breathable material meets the wader. In fact it looks like the neoprene itself has actually failed and become porous...

Not repairable unfortunately so its off to Simms.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

Finally figured out why my usual rubbing alcohol technique didnt work. The leak was actually in the neoprene part of the boot below where the breathable material meets the wader. In fact it looks like the neoprene itself has actually failed and become porous...

Not repairable unfortunately so its off to Simms.

U sure it's not the seams.Fold em inside out an give em a good inspection.I have repaired a few of my orvis waders at the seams.That area gets alot of abuse u should never pull ur waders on from the material on the top stretching the seam in the process.
i'm pretty sure u know this.just seams odd the neopreme would leak.


Skitter Pete sells waders why would u promote LL beans in a thread he started.i know ur only trying to help but i have seen alot of ur chiming in lately with product info that is in direct competition to alot of the sponsors here.???
Quit It!

[Tagger]

I use to get pin holes a little higher than the knee.. Finally figured it out .. It was the surf, banging the fish off my leggs and the spikes in the dorsal fin punching the holes .. took like ten years to figure it out ..

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by NIB

U sure it's not the seams.Fold em inside out an give em a good inspection.I have repaired a few of my orvis waders at the seams.That area gets alot of abuse u should never pull ur waders on from the material on the top stretching the seam in the process.
i'm pretty sure u know this.just seams odd the neopreme would leak.


Skitter Pete sells waders why would u promote LL beans in a thread he started.i know ur only trying to help but i have seen alot of ur chiming in lately with product info that is in direct competition to alot of the sponsors here.???
Quit It!

Definitely the neoprene. About a 2x2 inch square was literally bubbling like an airstone in an aquarium. Either way it's in Simms hand's now; this is the 2nd time back for the waders so it sounds like I'll be sporting new waders in a few days. If they don't fix a problem right the first time they usually immediately replace. They are WELL used over I think 3.5 seasons and they've held up admirably.

I long ago gave up on worrying about the LL Bean and Cabelas waders and the no questions asked warranty. I think those companies just use it to build loyalty more then anything else. I know they lose money on it and can afford to while Orvis and Simms get hosed. That won't change. Simms has a great warranty anyways. Understandably they tell you to screw if you rip your waders from your ass to your ankles but to me that's fine. Why should it be their fault? Plus all the waders they make (not counting the Freestone) are at least assembled in the US if not entirely built here. I'd be surprised if any other wader company could make that claim.