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Old 05-12-2006, 09:27 PM   #1
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Your a plumber right? You can get a job anywhere, don't take crap, and listen to your wife.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:41 AM   #2
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That sux Bob. Being an outsider in a family business isn't worth it most times. They will all stick together even if it runs the business down. You are better off finding another job and being happy. I would find another job and not announce it to your old employer. Then once you are hired go back to old job and pick up your tools. No notice is required as he sounds like a arse. He wouldn't give you 2 weeks notice if he was letting you go so screw him and his family.
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:01 AM   #3
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And the horse he rode in on. You see this more and more in business these days. Scum all of them. They've forgotten that loyalty runs both ways.

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:14 AM   #4
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Arrow the other thing is...

when you take out all of the personal feelings you have...

and look at the situation in a purely logical manner....

you perform work as an exchange of your skills for X amount of $
your also supposed to be doing this work because it gives you some
sort of satisfaction or pride... doing what you love is very important.

the thing is....
when you add stress to the equation added to the less
money/privaledge side....
suddenly the satisfaction is LOST...
and the exchange is no longer equitable....

stress is "the" number ONE killer of Americans
so that has to WEIGH
allot when view your scale of balance.
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Old 05-13-2006, 08:32 AM   #5
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That sux Bob that he is lying to you to make some sort of excuse.
You don't need that kind of job, I'd be looking also. Good luck
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:01 AM   #6
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Thanks for the support guys, I have a few leads and I am going to stay until I find something or they lay me off, I have to many bills.

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not sure how it works in mass or here in RI for that matter, but if i am correct, it is harder to collect un-employment benifits if you quit a job.. but if the job cans you it is obviously easier to collect...

Maybe the guy wants to can you because your going to take so much time off this summer, but doesnt want to pay extra $ if you collect, so he may be jerking you around so you will leave on your own accord.

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:00 AM   #8
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Use up all your Vaca time before you leave, then quit.
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Use up all your Vaca time before you leave, then quit.

I thought bush was on that path just after hurricane katrina
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:04 PM   #10
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Skip,
The thing is they offer nothing as for benefits, no vacation time or any type of retirement, and the big one no health insurance.
Eben,
I really want to wait it out and get laid off for the summer, it won't happen but that's what I want to do, my wife hates me not working
If you walk off a job or quit you Basically can't collect they either have to fire you or lay you off.

I have a few places to call Monday and will not leave until they lay me off or I find something else

Oh and I plan on asking for 3 dollars an hour for turning in the van

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Old 05-13-2006, 12:48 PM   #11
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If you're on good terms with your boss, maybe you can ask to be laid off instead of quitting. It seems like the least they can do.

You can't win being the only non-family membe in a family company. It may ruin your fishing for this year, but you'll be happier in the long run and nothing is worse than waking up every morning dreading going to work.

I wouldn't use your vacation time. They have to pay you for it if you don't use it - the extra cash could be useful if you're changing jobs.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:54 AM   #12
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Speaking with a little Human Resources background, walk the line with the boss - just enough to not get fired for non-performance (kills any unemployment) but enough that he really wants to get rid of you (so you do collect).

Then, you know the Outer Cape, hit the Campgrounds for the summer/fall, tie into any of the builders/plumbers out here for part-time (read - when the fish are not wild) work. Any skilled tradesmen out here who is worth their salt can have all the work they want. Of course, this is only a 4-5 month option but it would almost be like a vacation from the real world.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:41 PM   #13
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Raven has a good point,do whatever you can to LESSEN your stress level.And this is no time to be a nice guy.He's shown you what kind of guy he is.Turn the tables on him if you can.No guilt involved.And if you have to take a layoff just tell your wife to deal with it.She'll be OK,believe me.This is how I would deal with it.The best thing is that you are an excellent worker with an extremely marketable skill set and you will do well IN THE LONG RUN.I hope this helps.
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