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Old 06-19-2006, 11:58 AM   #22
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OK for all that are pissed off about Nauset and race point, think about this beach for a moment. Plum Island is a awsome area to fish and does allow off road vehicles for beach use. Beach use is defined as FISHING -- you must be actively fishing, or off ya go. PI is open only from mid August til Labor Day. That is only about a month of use folks, and that is if you are lucky.

Now for those who think the MBBA is a bunch of drunks out there for a good time think again. The MBBA does more than any other organization to protect the beaches and maintain high standards of use. Karl is correct that the MBBA is widespread and is governed by a small group who are in charge of more than access. Those who are not familiar with the organization should at least visit the website of the MBBA and look at the scheduled events that take place each year. I am a member (as you can easily figure) and I do attend the events, but not all meetings due to travel distance. The great majority of members are surf casting fishermen, not boat owners and do try and protect their rights to access to the beaches.

Please, this closure is another tool to limit our access to the fishing grounds we all love. Lets not sling mud between groups, but unify and help maintain beach access for ALL!
Are you talking about the closure at Plum Island or the G-men using the Plovers to stick it to us rtather than they being in a can't win situation cause if they don't close the beach the Dept. of Interior and US F&W will be up thier ass and if they do close them we are up thier asses?

I do not think the plover is being "used" to stick it to the surf and beach crowd. One thing I have noticed and maybe I should keep my mouth shut is that the rangers on the Seashore beaches, except for crowd control tactics at sticker sales time are virtually absent when the fisherman descend on the beaches at night at RP to Truro. 15 years ago they would acost you if you sitting in your vehicle or God forbid, taking a snooze. Now they hardly botheer with you.

Like anything, once the feds get thier hands on a "species restoration" project as the USFWS has with the plovers and the mountains of burocracy to get the plan implemented, running and then to have their field people, who are scared to death of lawsuits from Enviro groups, release the species from the endangered list, it will be a span of 15 to 20 years. And might I add, are plovers are doing alright, better than the current minimum levels to be taken off the list but coast wide, especially along Long Island beaches, thier numbers are in the toilet, so being that it is a national program, until the NY, NJ populations respond we ain't going to see any difference in the closure scene in Massachusetts. We pay for thier shortcomings at restoration of populations.

Why even try.........
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