race point over sand permit

[MAC]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

That's just how the birds work. It'll only stay open all season when the birds leave the endangered list.

The birds have to reach a certain # of pairs in 3 different wintering areas of the country. Then then have to sustain that # for 15 years before they will be removed. So chances are we may never see them removed in our lifetime.

The worst part is they are only listed as threatened not endangered. If changed to endangered it may bring on a whole new set of rules. I'll keep buying my permit even though it sux to be locked out. If we stop buying permits the bird people will win.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by MAC

The birds have to reach a certain # of pairs in 3 different wintering areas of the country. Then then have to sustain that # for 15 years before they will be removed. So chances are we may never see them removed in our lifetime.

The worst part is they are only listed as threatened not endangered. If changed to endangered it may bring on a whole new set of rules. I'll keep buying my permit even though it sux to be locked out. If we stop buying permits the bird people will win.

Bingo!

[Backbeach Jake]

So....it was the bird people snickering. In MA we're forced to pay an extra 5spot on our freshy and hunting licenses for wild lands that we sometimes are shut out of by people who pay not one red cent. This country is turning into one giant bird sanctuary. Details! it's always the details that screw my plans. Seriously tho there are those out there who would make our wild lands into a Disney movie, they have no idea what wild is. Next time we meet ask me to tell you the story of my brother in law and the tree huggers who are now afraid of the woods.

[gone fishin]

I agree with Mac - keep calling the Rangers station for an update. If they don't receive any calls they will figure the bird prople win. Maybe we will get lucky and they will open a part of the beach earlier than the middle of July or so.

ORV line 508-487-3698 or for more information call 508-487-2100 extension 110. The more info will put you on the line with a ranger. Be courtious and don't piss them off by being pushy. If you noticed on your weekly application there was a statement that applied to the beach possibly being shut down. No refunds.