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Old 07-13-2006, 09:44 AM   #1
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And how exactly am I on the wrong side of this issue? Simply because I put the welfare of 300 million americans ahead of 6 million Israelis?

I'd like you to let me know what side of this issue I'm on, because I don't think you really have a clue

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You seem to be blaming Isreal for everything and not putting any blame on the Palestinian thugs who start most of this, Isreal has every right to bomb the %$%$%$%$ out of Hamas and Hezballah anytime one of the groups fire rockets and kill Isreali children. I cant beleieve you are on the side of the Palestinians on this issue, You are so on the wrong side. Suporting the Palestinians and thier tacics is not much differerent than showing support for Al Qeada. They are pretty much the same in the tacics they use. This my friend, is why you are on the wrong side of this conflict. All you seem to do is rip Isreal and attempt to justfy the "Palestinian cause" Whatever the hell the damn cause is anyway.

Props to Isreal for taking action again Lebanon, if Hezbalah is storing arms and organizing murder in Isreal, i say good for Isreal for protecting its people. But i know you have a problem with Isreal going on the offesive and protecing its citizens from being slaughtered, dont you Spence?

Isreal has the right to take action, just like the US had the right to take action after our people were slaughterd on 9/11. Only in Isreal, they see mini 9/11's on a daily basis, rocket attacks, suicide bombings etc.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:53 AM   #2
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Suporting the Palestinians and thier tacics is not much differerent than showing support for Al Qeada. They are pretty much the same in the tacics they use. This my friend, is why you are on the wrong side of this conflict.
Skippy, your mind is in a very small box indeed

And please don't pretend to understand what my position is, because you...like Uffah don't get it.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:02 AM   #3
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Wink Looks like we have an in house war again

Spence is a well read diplomat and a decent guy...give him a break

I never said who I thought was right or wrong...it cannot be that simple.

What I have said before and am saying now is that this recent conflagration, only one of many over numerous years, could become a catalyst for a World War of an even more pronounced and elevated stature then the one we have been living already for some years.

Its scary really.

Let us try to get along if you will....

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:16 AM   #4
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Spence is a well read diplomat and a decent guy...give him a break
Awwww shucks

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I never said who I thought was right or wrong...it cannot be that simple.
Agreed. It is very complicated and there's been bad behavior on both sides...that's not a statement of parity mind you.
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What I have said before and am saying now is that this recent conflagration, only one of many over numerous years, could become a catalyst for a World War of an even more pronounced and elevated stature then the one we have been living already for some years.
It's becoming more clear what Israel intends here, to drive a wedge between the various Palestenian factions. It certainly is risky though...

I think a key factor is that a broader war really doesn't benefit anyone in this situation. Israel looks to be after some incremental gain that may help stabalize the Palestenian government...if it doesn't destroy it in the process.

It's like chemotherapy

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Old 07-13-2006, 12:09 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=Skitterpop]Spence is a well read diplomat and a decent guy...give him a break QUOTE]

So i cant challenge his views because he's a "decent guy"? Get real and learn how to debate. Just because someones a solid gut doesnt mean i cant challenge his views.

I'm sure Jimmy Carter's a pretty good guy too, but he's a nut when it comes to his political views!
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Ok

Can you read Skip?

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Old 07-13-2006, 12:20 PM   #7
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Just because someones a solid gut doesnt mean i cant challenge his views.
Skippy, you're not really challenging my views...but rather spitting up
ad hominem fragments and regurgitated partisan whackery.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:24 AM   #8
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All you seem to do is rip Isreal and attempt to justfy the "Palestinian cause" Whatever the hell the damn cause is anyway.
This is a very interesting statement, I can't believe Skippy is that stupid.

Skippy, could you please elaborate?

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