Israel and World War Three

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Homerun04

Hatred spawning hatred.....and both sides say it is in the name of God....can you imagine what He/She must be thinking now........

Name of God? Maybe for the screwballs in Hezballa, but for Isreal its to protect thier damn people from slaughter. I guess in your world thats a bad thing? But how by Isreal defending themslelves are they acting in the name of God??

Thats like saying we acted in the name of God when we invaded Afganastan, be we all know it was becuase Al Qeada slaughtered our people, and we went after 'em. Whats the difference in the two? Nothing! Our actions, and Isreals, were taken to protect the people of both countries. Its thats simple. Nothing to do with God, only the Muslim fanatics wage terror for their so called God. You cant compare us to them, your nuts if you think that.

[stormfish]

Well, Isreal launch a series of attacks which were targeted the Hezbullah Group if I'm correct which killed many civilians and about 12 Isrealians solidiers lost for the cause of 2 soldiers being kidnapped. All in all I guess it's a fair trade off the way the world is.

Bush "supports" Isreal's actions because his all about anti-terrorism. Bottomline, I believe whatever the Jews want Bush will give because they returned him the favor through Jewish operated networks within U.S. media since 9/11.

World War III? Perhaps! It'll be interesting what North Korea is going to do and how is China going to react. OMG, not only do we have to worry about terrorism, but also commies!

[JohnR]

Stormfish - how old are you?

[stormfish]

John R... I'm old enough to know what's going on with the world and not to trust everything you see in the news.

Consuming too much time watching the news can influence the mind. I only begin to question accuracy when things don't seem right. But if your mind is influenced how can you distinguish from what is right and wrong?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by stormfish

John R... I'm old enough to know what's going on with the world and not to trust everything you see in the news.

Consuming too much time watching the news can influence the mind. I only begin to question accuracy when things don't seem right. But if your mind is influenced how can you distinguish from what is right and wrong?

I'll ask one last time - how old are you?

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I'll ask one last time - how old are you?

If it tickles your curiosity that much John, I'm 28. I really appreciate you being the tyrant of this board. You pulled one of my threads out in which I didn't have anything to write or linked anything offensive, educative, yes. I'm starting to realize who you stand for and if anyone has a different opinion than you then you become proactive. For a free speech discussion board, it's not really "free" is it? I guess it's your way or no way. Oh I really like that button you relayed my login link to earlier. If I admit I am one then I ask who isn't?

Back to discussions...
Isreal is taking advantage of the U.S.'s war on Terror by following by example. If Bush condemns Isreal for what they do then the U.S. would be known as a hypocrit. Isreal will always feel pressure from the Muslim world because the country has only existed for 58 years to date. 58 years isn't enough time to earn respect from the Arab world after you take their land and call it yours and bullying your neighbors.

Isreals targeted bombings is as effective as the U.S.'s claim to Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. I think we found a can of Coke which could of contained Anthrax and rigged with a warhead.
Oh btw,
Beginning of Isreals attacks the price on crude went up $2.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stormfish

I really appreciate you being the tyrant of this board.

Well, this ain't no democracy...who do ya think pays the bills?

-spence

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by stormfish

If it tickles your curiosity that much John, I'm 28. I really appreciate you being the tyrant of this board. You pulled one of my threads out in which I didn't have anything to write or linked anything offensive, educative, yes. I'm starting to realize who you stand for and if anyone has a different opinion than you then you become proactive. For a free speech discussion board, it's not really "free" is it? I guess it's your way or no way. Oh I really like that button you relayed my login link to earlier. If I admit I am one then I ask who isn't?

Actually - I asked how old you are because your posts (which seem to have little to with fishing) make you sound like you are a teenager and wanted to make sure (or at least have you say) that you are over 18. And it must have been one of the other tyrants that pulled you post because it wasn't me - however, I'm sure they had valid reason to do so...

And seeing that you don't post much on fishing topics but just sports and political talk I will inform you that most pulled posts are because they degenerated into a pissing contest or because what was posted was just plain wrong or just plain stupid.

In fact, I usually get flamed for not flushing enough crappy posts down the toilet... But believe what you wish (and send the tin foil hat in for a tune up)

And because we are off to such a flowery start here - who do you think I stand for?

[Swimmer]

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He is starting to believe his own press releases CLINTON
BUFFOON

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Name of God? Maybe for the screwballs in Hezballa, but for Isreal its to protect thier damn people from slaughter. I guess in your world thats a bad thing? But how by Isreal defending themslelves are they acting in the name of God??

Thats like saying we acted in the name of God when we invaded Afganastan, be we all know it was becuase Al Qeada slaughtered our people, and we went after 'em. Whats the difference in the two? Nothing! Our actions, and Isreals, were taken to protect the people of both countries. Its thats simple. Nothing to do with God, only the Muslim fanatics wage terror for their so called God. You cant compare us to them, your nuts if you think that.

Example... If your cousins committed a crime. Should you and everyone else in your family be sentence to jail? There's no justice for Isreal to murder civilians by air attack.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Example... If your cousins committed a crime. Should you and everyone else in your family be sentence to jail? There's no justice for Isreal to murder civilians by air attack.

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

No, that's not a fair assessment.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

This is precisely the problem.

It's not that Israel is accused of intentionally targetting civilians, but rather that they consistantly over apply force causing the civilian deaths regardless.

The incident a few years ago where the IDF shot a live tank round into a peaceful Palestenian demonstration is a perfect example.

One thing I don't think Skippy or a lot like him understand is how much of the problem with terrorisim at the root has to do with humiliation inspired rage, rather than religious fanaticisim...

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

Skippy, you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter, who's targeting what.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Skippy, you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter, who's targeting what.

-spence

Spence I'm sure you want to clarify that statement because it could lead one to assume that it is an attempt at legitmizing the targeting of unmarmed, innocent civilians. (They killed civilians by mistake so it's okay for us to kill them on purpose). Collateral damage which Israel is guilty of is bad enough without the purposeful intent of killing civilians which Hizbollah is guilty of. Thats probably why it's called Terrorism.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

1. Isreal has targeted areas.
2. They know there are civilians near the targets.
3. They know they're are going to blow up civilains to reach their targets.
4. They blow up their targets.
5. No Hezbullah...
6. Isreal calls it an accident.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

Now this is refreshing, finally your coming around

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Name of God? Maybe for the screwballs in Hezballa, but for Isreal its to protect thier damn people from slaughter. I guess in your world thats a bad thing? But how by Isreal defending themslelves are they acting in the name of God??

Thats like saying we acted in the name of God when we invaded Afganastan, be we all know it was becuase Al Qeada slaughtered our people, and we went after 'em. Whats the difference in the two? Nothing! Our actions, and Isreals, were taken to protect the people of both countries. Its thats simple. Nothing to do with God, only the Muslim fanatics wage terror for their so called God. You cant compare us to them, your nuts if you think that.

Skip ... did you read Homeruns post?

[NaCl H2O]

Not to side track the discussion, but Drudge is carrying a link to a Pakistani website which has an interesting quote from President Clinton made back in 2002. I wonder if he's dusted off his M-16 yet?


By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to “grab a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die.”

“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die,” Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish charity Monday.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.a...4-8-2002_pg1_6

[spence]

Originally Posted by NaCl H2O

Not to side track the discussion, but Drudge is carrying a link to a Pakistani website which has an interesting quote from President Clinton made back in 2002. I wonder if he's dusted off his M-16 yet?

Well, to be fair to Bill I don't think what we're seeing today is in same context he was talking about...

Iran has been helping terrorists strike Israel for some time, this is nothing all that new. And I'd love to see some independent analysis of the situation to ensure Israel isn't looking for their own "Gulf of Tonkin" incident...that story didn't seem to have the legs it appeared to on first glance.

The big looser in all of this is Lebanon, they have been making great strides towards Democracy and normalization with the West and this is really going to set things back.

What Israel is asking for, the Lebanese Government simply can't deliver on...and they know it.

This would be a great opportunity for the World to back the Lebanese PM and push off Syrian and Iranian interests.

I wonder if any of the Beriut Starbucks have been hit?

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by spence

I wonder if any of the Beriut Starbucks have been hit?

-spence

If Hezbalah frequents those Starucks, i hope they've been wiped out.

[likwid]

hezbollah....

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

hezbollah....

hezbollah, shesbollah, who cares whose bollah it is?