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07-19-2006, 06:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Plenty of large out around Block Isalnd if you can fish through the doggies.
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07-19-2006, 06:16 AM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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From what I've been hearing and reading, it seams that the larger fish have stayed to our south on pogies later than usual this year. With the lack of bait that we have now, whenever there is a concentration of bait somewhere, such as adult pogies off jersey, the bass are gonna stay there. Just seams to be the way things work. Some years its the cape, some its rhody, some the elizabeths (well most years its the elizabeths), etc. In my opinion, fixing the bait situation is what will lead to more bigger fish and a more even distribution of those fish. At least things are starting to be done now with the herring situation. Its a start but there's a long way to go.
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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07-19-2006, 06:53 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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One a day is plenty IMO. As far as no quality fish, try night fishing(surf) with live eels in the usual areas. There doesn't seem to be a shortage. They may not be the relatively easy ones like the spring fish, but they are out there. Boats are cleaning up regardless. I would only become concerned with the bass stocks if the YOY index begins to trend sharply lower for a number of years. Today's smalls are tomorrow's large. Tomorrow's large spawn more smalls. Simple equation. There's more fish around today than ever. Take it from someone who started fishing in 1980. Its gotten better every year for the last 26 years. Outer cape has slacked off in recent years from the beach, but its not due to a lack of fish IMO.
Last edited by Back Beach; 07-19-2006 at 07:01 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-19-2006, 07:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,786
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B/B
I,m just F #$%^&* old
you started in the 80,s /I had already quit by then // yu only think its good now 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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07-19-2006, 07:35 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Where the bait is....
Posts: 488
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Im seeing ALOT of 20 poundish fish this year, more than ive ever seen. Nothing really over that but for July i cant complain. There are some bigguns still stuck down south, and some heading north chasing the bunker along the s shore here, so u guys shud get a shot at them.
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07-19-2006, 08:11 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
B/B
I,m just F #$%^&* old
you started in the 80,s /I had already quit by then // yu only think its good now 
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I hear ya old man.  I would have started in 1970, but I was in diapers. 1980 was just about the modern day bottom for the bass stocks though.Some day I'll look back and call today the good old days. 
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-19-2006, 08:17 AM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Place a ban on the taking on pogies from South Carolina to Nova Scotia...
Cut Mass' comm. fishing limits to the same as RI...
Get MA, ME, NH, RI, NJ, CT, NC, VA, DE, and NS to all agree to the same limits etc.. and to getting a ban on pogies..
Then we can hear stories of Hab getting 9 50's off the same rock ala Steve Andrus 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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07-20-2006, 04:54 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
I hear ya old man.  I would have started in 1970, but I was in diapers. 1980 was just about the modern day bottom for the bass stocks though.Some day I'll look back and call today the good old days. 
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Hey Clammer. I knew Back Beach when it WAS good on the Back Beaches. That's where I met him years ago and we did have nights of 30 and 40 fish from 20 to 40 lbs. I don't see that happening anymore. I think the Cape downturn is due mostly to the seals. There isn't as many big sandeels as there use to be either.
I think the RI scene is still viable. You just gotta work for the fish. July and August have always been the "Summer Doldrums". Eels in the middle of the night have always been the ticket. So what's changed??? I think that we had a good Spring run (I know my partner and I did) and perhaps guys got spoiled. These are always the toughest 2 months. If you want large you just have to loose sleep and crawl the dark hours with eels. So nothing is different. I am willing to bet that in 2 months (Sept 20th) you will see tons of big fish being caught in the surf. It's always been that way.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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07-20-2006, 06:38 AM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Warren Vt
Posts: 668
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first off i would have to say that anyone who has spent enough time on the water will tell you that just because there are a lot of fish today doesn't mean there will lots tommorrow.every fish keep today is one less tomorrow. i haven't fished from a boat much in the last ten years so i can't say how good or bad it really is.i do know what it was like in the 60's and 70's and i serouisly doubt that the number of fish between 20 and 60 lbs is anywheres near what it was back then.if the boat guys are doing as good as everyone says doesn't that give you an indication that maybe too many fish are being killed, idoubt that many people in the real world practice C@R like the guys on these boards do. i like to eat fish so i keep my share to eat fresh.i am curouis if the boat guys are doing well because there are a lot of fish to catch or are they just catching fish because of there mobility and abilitly to stay on fish if and when they find them.
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