Israel and World War Three

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Originally Posted by Skip N

Radical Islam is the #1 threat in the world today. Please tell me we can all agree on this at least!

Nope...radical Islam is powerless without something to feed on.

The biggest threat to the USA is a loss of economic strength. We can't influence the root causes of terrorisim unless we have leverage.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by spence

Nope...radical Islam is powerless without something to feed on.
-spence

Radical Islam has its own fuel in its very soul.

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Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Radical Islam has its own fuel in its very soul.

But it's not any different than a passionate Trotskyite, and look where it got them!

The point being, radical Islam is nearly powerless unless it can feed from the non-radicalized world.

The forces that push resources and new souls to the dark side have little to do with Islam and everything to do with socioeconomic and political forces.

Certainly for some there is a pull from Islam, but it's weak on it's own...compbined with the push...now we have a problem

Just remember that 9/11 wasn't about gays getting married or Americans drinking too much lite beer. It was...in the attackers own words...a response to (perceived) oppression of Muslims by Western or Western influenced regimes in Palestine, Chechnya, Saudia Arabia, Uzbeckistan etc...

Bin Laden has been led to believe that a social system built on Sharia Law is what the Muslim world needs to regain it's former glory...it's more of a social movement than a religious one...just like those Trotskyites!

People get all caught up in the fanatic rhetoric, but Bin Laden does have a very good point. As far as Muslims are concerned...the current system is very corrupt and self serving.

That is the root of the problem, not the radicalisim itsself.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

you missed the religious fervor which is all many Muslims have



and teachings from as soon as possible based on the holy jihad.

Tin foil hat = deadly directive = countless deaths attributed to terrorist acts world wide

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Originally Posted by Skitterpop

you missed the religious fervor which is all many Muslims have

Without religious ferver what kind of position would the poor be in? It's a two way street...

Also, Islam hasn't always been this intolerant of challenging opinions. The pendulum can certainly swing the other way...

Start empowering women business people in Islamic societies and lookout

and teachings from as soon as possible based on the holy jihad.

Well, is the motivation for the teaching of hate (and there's a lot of it) driven by a sense of religious duty, or by a sense of authoritarian control?

We've all heard the stories of the anti-semetic and anti-western rhetoric in Saudi Arabian textbooks. Is this to inspire Jihad, or to direct the attention of the flocks away from their own corrupt rulers?

Tin foil hat = deadly directive = countless deaths attributed to terrorist acts world wide

I've read that far more Muslims have died due to terrorisim in the past 30 years than have non-Muslims. This would indicate that the struggle against the infidel is only a part of the problem.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by spence

Without religious ferver what kind of position would the poor be in? It's a two way street...

Also, Islam hasn't always been this intolerant of challenging opinions. The pendulum can certainly swing the other way...

Start empowering women business people in Islamic societies and lookout


Well, is the motivation for the teaching of hate (and there's a lot of it) driven by a sense of religious duty, or by a sense of authoritarian control?

We've all heard the stories of the anti-semetic and anti-western rhetoric in Saudi Arabian textbooks. Is this to inspire Jihad, or to direct the attention of the flocks away from their own corrupt rulers?


I've read that far more Muslims have died due to terrorisim in the past 30 years than have non-Muslims. This would indicate that the struggle against the infidel is only a part of the problem.

-spence

We are chipping in and sending you to Iraq to fix their problems with your ideas

[likwid]

from another forum im on.

Subject: Quick hello
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:57:30 -0400

Hello all,

Sorry for the mass mail, but just wanted to send a quick note to let everybody know that we are quite safe and there is absolutely nothing to worry about with regards to our safety here in Lebanon. The wedding is still going on as planned on Wednesday, but unfortunately the recent craziness will keep everybody else from my side from being able to make it.

Please know that we are VERY far from all the excitement, and there is
no reason to fear for our safety. We are a bit cooped up in the house, so my bigest fear is that all the good food and wine is gooing to make fitting into my suit a bit of a challenge.

Take care and my love to all!

Despite everything, there is some good in the world that can still happen.

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Originally Posted by Skitterpop

We are chipping in and sending you to Iraq to fix their problems with your ideas

Ideas don't seem to be the problem...the issue is, are the people willing to make the sacrifices necessary to change?

-spence