Israel and World War III part four

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Friday, July 28, 2006
Ancient hatreds hardening in Middle East

In the first days of fighting in the Middle East, some Arab leaders found themselves in the unusual position of criticizing an attack on Israel; suggesting that Hezbollah's kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers, the event that started this latest bloodshed, was ill-conceived, risky and wrong.

At that time, the loudest complaints about Israel's actions were coming from Syria and Iran, countries that have backed Hezbollah for years.

But look at how a little more than two weeks can change things.

The Israeli military has been battling Hezbollah nonstop and hammering Lebanon. And now, Middle East watchers say public complaints about Israel's actions are growing noticeably louder throughout the Arab world. The images of Lebanese killed, wounded and fleeing; the pictures of Hezbollah neighborhoods reduced to rubble; the mere thought of Israel attacking on the soil of an Arab country -- these things have triggered many deep-seated and long-lived hatreds.

Some of the Middle East experts I have talked to say this should not be mistaken for the beginning of a massive, pro-Hezbollah movement. Many Arabs, they say, especially those who must live alongside Hezbollah in Lebanon, do not like the group's radical politics and despise its militant methods. But few Arabs say that publicly.

It was explained to me this way: Ask any Arab if he or she supports Hezbollah right now and that person is likely to say "yes," but what they mean is that they are not about to be heard supporting Israel.

Some Arabs have always hated Israel and probably always will. Some Israelis, no doubt, would be happy to be rid of many Arabs. So my question is this: Does it make any difference, with the guns of war pounding, that their hatreds may be hardening even more?

[stormfish]

I don't know what it is about the Jews, but there's always issues with them. For one, Hitler who is a Jew himself, led a campaign to exterminate his own people. Europe then banished the Jews to Isreal, causing conflict with the Arabs. Now it seems the Arabs want to banish the Jews back to Europe. If it was so easy to move all the Jews back to Europe, peace will thrive well in the Middle East. But with so many Jews, where to put them? I think we should take over Mexico and relocate Isreal below the border of Texas/Mexico. Will that anger Latinos? Will the Latinos then become terrorists? Call me a cynic, but I can never see peace between the Jews and Arabs.

[spence]

Ummmmm...."banished" to Israel?

There's an 'ism" word that starts with a 'Z' that you may be overlooking...

-spence

[stormfish]

Zealotism?

for the love of Judea!

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Zion ism

[likwid]

3 dozen children dead in one strike.

still worth it?

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by likwid

3 dozen children dead in one strike.

still worth it?

One person dead is not worth it. Though.... if I built my missile launchers into reinforced apartment buildings and was dropping them on your family and friends would you say I cannot strike that building knowing there were women and children there.... when the residents have embraced Hezbollah and are one in the same quite often.

Its a horrble situation. Its a booby trap for any Israel action essentially.

Remember Vietnam

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by stormfish

I don't know what it is about the Jews, but there's always issues with them. For one, Hitler who is a Jew himself, led a campaign to exterminate his own people. Europe then banished the Jews to Isreal, causing conflict with the Arabs. Now it seems the Arabs want to banish the Jews back to Europe. If it was so easy to move all the Jews back to Europe, peace will thrive well in the Middle East. But with so many Jews, where to put them? I think we should take over Mexico and relocate Isreal below the border of Texas/Mexico. Will that anger Latinos? Will the Latinos then become terrorists? Call me a cynic, but I can never see peace between the Jews and Arabs.

Hitler was a Jew???????????????????????

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by stormfish

For one, Hitler who is a Jew himself, led a campaign to exterminate his own people.

From Holocaust-History.Org

Hitler's grandmother was not Jewish.

There are some rumors hinting that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Few, if any, of the reputable historians on the Holocaust believe that this is so. It is more likely that Hitler tried to keep the murky history of his family quite secret because there was a high incidence of insanity and feeble-mindedness in his ancestors.

Rumors die hard, though.

One of Hitler's henchmen, Hans Frank, declared during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945-46, that Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. He further claimed that she was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.

A subsequent analysis of Frank's statement by Simon Wiesenthal disclosed that there was no evidence of any Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.

Hitler's grandmother's maiden name was Schickelgruber. There is considerable evidence that this family produced abnormal progeny. Examples are: one of Hitler's relatives through his mother's side committed suicide in 1920, another, Aloisha had been placed in an insane asylum, another was "feeble-minded," and yet another was retarded.

According to the article from which I am quoting this material:


"Hitler's real fear, then, was not that someone would discover that he has a Jewish grandfather, but that it would someday come to light that he carried a hereditary disposition toward mental illness and retardation."
You might ask your English teacher to go to a good library and see the following article:


"Hitler's Family Secret: A file recovered from the Nazi Archives tells of a Gestapo investigation into the Fuehrer's murky family history."
By: Ben S. Swearingen
Civilization: The Magazine of the Library of Congress Volume 2, Number 2, Arcg/April 1995, pp. 54-55
Harry W. Mazal OBE