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[NIB]

Tommorrow sometime.I have about 4 hrs of work then I gotta load up the truck an I'm off to beverly.Hopfully it wil be rainin as Chuck B. would say it'll do my engine good.Maybelene.
It's too hot to deal with it now or i would leave right after work I had to cut outside all day today.I needed a mop boy.If u need a image there is only one small piece of clothing on
me as I type this an cool down.So i will probably wait for the rush hr.traffic to subside then go.like 9 pm that i'll get me up there by 2 am.

[Mike P]

I see a new overall leader. I knew Lev Wlodyka when he was a hyperactive 12 year old running back and forth on the Menemsha jetty chasing albies

[Mike P]

Whoa, where the hell did these guys come from---new leading club. Looks like a "club" that was thrown together by Stevie Morris for commercial season. No fish entered before July 18. I recognize a lot of Vineyarders in there.

CLUB LEADERS: (largest 10 fish)

1. Team #^&#^&#^&#^&'s MA, 442.3 pts.

31-Jul Lev Wlodyka 57.6 lbs.
25-Jul Lev Wlodyka 49.5 lbs.
04-Aug Nick Warburton 46.6 lbs.
03-Aug Morgan Child 44.6 lbs.
07-Aug Alec Gale 44.2 lbs.
27-Jul Greg Tayntor 43.5 lbs.
18-Jul Nick Warburton 43.4 lbs.
07-Aug Rick Sylva 40.5 lbs.
23-Jul Whitney Brush 36.6 lbs.
26-Jul Chris Morris 35.8 lbs.

Averaging close to 45 pounds a fish. Might as well hand them the Cup right now

I'm telling you right now--unless they have separate boat/shore divisions and exclude commercially caught fish, they can kiss me good-bye for next year's event.

[tattoobob]

Me To, I had no idea the com's were aloud in this contest, it is just not fair

[JohnR]

I think the comms can and should fish it - just not during commercial season - that's one of the things we beyotched about that did not get fixed... So no suprise... I wonder how (if) the sponsors will feel when they find out that "Joe, going to buy a sixpack of Harpoon" is not the "typical" angler that winds up winning these things....

[Clammer]

John /
how do you fix that

commercial is T,W,T & 5 on Sunday // no problem holding fish /til an off day then selling them <<,

Years ago we all had chest freezers === if things were slow or the price went to %$%$%$%$ ======we would freeze them === take them out the morning we were gonna sell them // run a hose in their mouths // go fishing =====then sell all the fish together /// ya had to be pretty sharp to pickup on the frozen ones ...

[Mike P]

Can't eliminate it entirely. Hell, I've seen bloofish come into the Vineyard Derby weigh-in with freezer burn

But unless they give at least the appearance of a level playing field, this tourney is going to be a "one and done". Especially if they can't DQ Major. Which, from what I understand, is going to be very difficult if not impossible. Looks like he's going to skate on the violation---sounds to me like the EPO %$%$%$%$ed up royally. One EPO, at night, alone on rough water, didn't board, no fish or pictures as evidence, and I hear from an OTW staffer Major's still waiting on getting a ticket in the mail.

The other thing I'd like to see is, if you're a tackle shop and a weigh station, and you're sponsoring a team, you can't weigh your members' fish. I know Morris is being extra careful in that regard, but not every tackle shop owner has his integrity--even if he does keep two eel tanks, one for his regulars and one for the tourists

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Clammer

John /
how do you fix that

commercial is T,W,T & 5 on Sunday // no problem holding fish /til an off day then selling them <<,

Years ago we all had chest freezers === if things were slow or the price went to %$%$%$%$ ======we would freeze them === take them out the morning we were gonna sell them // run a hose in their mouths // go fishing =====then sell all the fish together /// ya had to be pretty sharp to pickup on the frozen ones ...

I know exactly what you mean and that is the hard thing to figure out. Do you only allow weighed in fish from commercial license holders up until Comm season starts and allow it again after it's over? I realize that the days on / off could easily be manipulated.

You know me - I'\m not anti-commercial - but I try to think objectively on what the most fair and even handed a tournament can be for your target audience. When the commercial anglers are not in comm season and are playing by the same rules as the rest of us, then it is a fair game, level playing field, even rules. They will still most likely outfish the rest - and that is fine as it is all even based on the rules.

I don't know why some people think this is about jealousy again. I simply don't see that. It's a numbers excercise - you even out the formula for everyone. Then SKILL will make the difference, and a little luck can play too, but SKILL will be the final factor. That is when the comm guy will outfish the non comm guy, fair & square.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Whoa, where the hell did these guys come from---new leading club. Looks like a "club" that was thrown together by Stevie Morris for commercial season. No fish entered before July 18. I recognize a lot of Vineyarders in there.

CLUB LEADERS: (largest 10 fish)

1. Team #^&#^&#^&#^&'s MA, 442.3 pts.

31-Jul Lev Wlodyka 57.6 lbs.
25-Jul Lev Wlodyka 49.5 lbs.
04-Aug Nick Warburton 46.6 lbs.
03-Aug Morgan Child 44.6 lbs.
07-Aug Alec Gale 44.2 lbs.
27-Jul Greg Tayntor 43.5 lbs.
18-Jul Nick Warburton 43.4 lbs.
07-Aug Rick Sylva 40.5 lbs.
23-Jul Whitney Brush 36.6 lbs.
26-Jul Chris Morris 35.8 lbs.

Averaging close to 45 pounds a fish. Might as well hand them the Cup right now

I'm telling you right now--unless they have separate boat/shore divisions and exclude commercially caught fish, they can kiss me good-bye for next year's event.

Good post Mike.

I`m done already....does`nt taste good...not that I`ve weighed anything in yet anyway....it was my first tourney. If they make changes maybe as an individual next year.

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Good post Mike.

I`m done already....does`nt taste good...not that I`ve weighed anything in yet anyway....it was my first tourney.

Me to, probably my last to

[Mike P]

New standings out today. RISAA pulled another 2-3 points ahead of us. GB OUTDOORS' 40 still hasn't gone up, and I knocked cheferson out of the top 10 for SB. No changes at the top, but Sandwich Yacht Club edged closer to Bass & Brew. Still 17 points behind

[Slipknot]

Ya, I wonder what's up with Greg's 40 it's been 2 weeks atleast
we should be in 4th