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08-03-2006, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Once you recognize that radical islam and groups such as Hezbolah, Al Queada and Hamas are the new form of Nazism, it will be much easier for you to see the pure evil in these people, and stop making excuses for them.
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Skippy, Skippy, Skippy...
First off you're comparing apples and oranges.
Second, this isn't about making excuses...it's about an appreciation for the real root causes of the issues we face.
If a suicide bomber attacks the local coffee shop, do you respond by wishing to simply kill all muslims...
...or do you also ask yourself, what would drive a person to do this?
It's not as simple as good and evil, which is why we're not winning the "war on terrorisim".
-spence
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08-03-2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Skippy, Skippy, Skippy...
If a suicide bomber attacks the local coffee shop, do you respond by wishing to simply kill all muslims...
-spence
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Who the hell ever said to go kill ALL muslims? I support the killing of RADICAL muslims who wish to do me and others harm. Most people don't have an issue with peaceful muslims. Its the radical brain washed ones I and most people have issue with.
I know you think myself and anyone who supports the war on radical Islam wants all Muslims wiped off the map, but you know for a fact this isnt the case. Typical spin from the lefties
And maybe if other countries other than the US, Israel and Britian gave a rats ass about taking down radical islam and terroists we'd be alot further along in this war on terror. The rest of the world sits back and kisses the asses of these muslim countries that support terror. kinda like you! You'd rather we sit back and talk to to these thugs, the only thing they understand is FORCE. I know liberals hate to use force, but sometimes when you face a pure evil enemy, you have no choice but to use heavy force.
We either confront radical Islam head on now, or we'll be forced to deal with them again down the road, maybe after another 9/11 or two? they are NOT going away anytime soon unless we take the fight to them. If we dont, they'll be waiting to strike us again and again.
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08-03-2006, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
We either confront radical Islam head on now, or we'll be forced to deal with them again down the road, maybe after another 9/11 or two?
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But Skipper, we're not "confronting" radical Islam at all, quite the contrary...we're doing much to empower it.
-spence
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08-03-2006, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
If a suicide bomber attacks the local coffee shop, do you respond by wishing to simply kill all muslims...
-spence
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If I had been waiting in line and the coffee was good.... Yes!
Skip! Spence!
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08-03-2006, 11:50 AM
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Not only Hezbollah
Isreal is in conflict with Hezbollah at the moment but let's not forget about Hamas. Isreal primary objective now is obviously to decentralize Hezbollah and 'with success to intimidate Hamas' (secondary objective). It's very unlikely Hamas and Hezbollah will join forces for they are rival tribes.
There will never be peace with Isreal and the Arab World. Grudge between the two is inevitable! There's a lot of Muslims to take out compared to Isrealites. Only thing keeping Isreal up is that they have big guns.
If the U.S. continue operations in the Middle East then there will be a WWIII, it's just a matter of time.
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fish when you can is the way I do it man
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08-03-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by stormfish
There will never be peace with Isreal and the Arab World. Grudge between the two is inevitable!
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It's that attitude that leads to rampant violence and dehumanization.
This is America, we're supposed to be more optimistic
-spence
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08-03-2006, 12:10 PM
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Spence ask, "Why do people strap bombs to themselves, or fly airplanes into buildings?"
Spence
Because thier stupid bassturds thats why. And there are too many cowards around recruiting the uneducated illiterate buffoons.
Spence one of the few things you have posted that I disagree with is in regard to MakoMike's post about what I think O'Reilly first spoke of about Israel laying down thier arms and thier wouldn't be another holocost. To think that Israel would not be obliterated is an absurdity.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
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08-03-2006, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
Because thier stupid bassturds thats why. And there are too many cowards around recruiting the uneducated illiterate buffoons.
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Swimmer, that simply isn't true...
Yes, there are examples (particularly in Palestine) where terror groups have prayed on the weak.
But the profile for a high-impact suicide terrorist is often college educated...
Do you think Mohammed Atta was a dunce? Certainly not...the 9/11 hijackers were not (to our knowledge) forced into anything...they used their free will to hurt others.
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Spence one of the few things you have posted that I disagree with is in regard to MakoMike's post about what I think O'Reilly first spoke of about Israel laying down thier arms and thier wouldn't be another holocost. To think that Israel would not be obliterated is an absurdity.
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Fair enough...
But remember that the various Palestenian terror groups have evolved as a reactive, not proactive presence. This isn't to lay blame.
-spence
Last edited by spence; 08-03-2006 at 12:27 PM..
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08-03-2006, 12:22 PM
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Strapped with bombs I believe... Terrorist flying airplanes into buildings I do not. 9/11 isn't enough evidence that it was the works of terrorists. Too hard to this day to believe.
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fish when you can is the way I do it man
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08-03-2006, 12:28 PM
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Well Spence, since you have all the answers, Pack you %$%$%$%$ and go to the middle east and straighten out all the trouble!!
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08-03-2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stormfish
Strapped with bombs I believe... Terrorist flying airplanes into buildings I do not. 9/11 isn't enough evidence that it was the works of terrorists. Too hard to this day to believe.
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Dude, your retarded! I'm sure Mike P will go on another rampage and pull my post but i dont care. I cant believe someone can be such a moron and believe 9/11 was an inside job. You belong in the nut house!!
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08-03-2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Skippy, Skippy, Skippy...
First off you're comparing apples and oranges.
Second, this isn't about making excuses...it's about an appreciation for the real root causes of the issues we face.
If a suicide bomber attacks the local coffee shop, do you respond by wishing to simply kill all muslims...
...or do you also ask yourself, what would drive a person to do this?
It's not as simple as good and evil, which is why we're not winning the "war on terrorisim".
-spence
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Onyl the ones who vow to do it again. And there is plenty of them.
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08-03-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
Onyl the ones who vow to do it again. And there is plenty of them.
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Unless you can stop the flow of new recruits, there will always be plenty.
-spence
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08-03-2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Unless you can stop the flow of new recruits, there will always be plenty.
-spence
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and how is this done? seriously?
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08-03-2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Skitterpop
and how is this done? seriously?
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Well, first you have to ask yourself...
Why do people strap bombs to themselves, or fly airplanes into buildings?
The profile seems to be young, and often educated Muslims.
So why do they do this?
-spence
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08-03-2006, 12:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, first you have to ask yourself...
Why do people strap bombs to themselves, or fly airplanes into buildings?
The profile seems to be young, and often educated Muslims.
So why do they do this?
-spence
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Because we do give them reason for extreme responses.... what astrological sign are you Devil Man? 
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08-03-2006, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, first you have to ask yourself...
Why do people strap bombs to themselves, or fly airplanes into buildings?
The profile seems to be young, and often educated Muslims.
So why do they do this?
-spence
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Why do we have to ask ourselves that question? It's like asking why the Kamakasi pilots during WWII did what they did. Its a pointless discussion, we don't need to understand them, we just need to kill them.
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08-03-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Why do we have to ask ourselves that question? It's like asking why the Kamakasi pilots during WWII did what they did. Its a pointless discussion, we don't need to understand them, we just need to kill them.
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Mike, read what I've said above...
You can't kill them all, think Lucy and the Pie Factory !
Unless you understand why someone moves to the dark side, how can you ever stop the flow?
This has nothing to do with liberalisim, it's common sense and problem solving.
-spence
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08-03-2006, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Why do we have to ask ourselves that question? It's like asking why the Kamakasi pilots during WWII did what they did. Its a pointless discussion, we don't need to understand them, we just need to kill them.
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Japan style of Kamikaze was great honor to sacrifice one's life for a good cause. In doing so, one would reap many rewards in the afterlife. Kamikaze pilots of Japan wore formal uniforms for their Kamikaze mission. I beleive there's a tale that providing that honor will resurrect a God to banish the invaders from the land of Japan with a Tsunami caused by a Typhoon. The tale lived true but the Tsunami was 1 day too late as Japan was struck with Little Boy.
Germany on the other side followed Kamikaze missions influence by a tale that dates back the rule of Prussia. (Not sure how the story went because I felll asleep in the middle of the documentary)
Bottomline their motives were based on Prophecy. Same concept the Jews used to crucify Jesus. They were afraid of the prophet. I mean terrorist do, in the sake of Ji'had.
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