Israel and World War III part four - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Skip N · 08-03-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skitterpop

This is so wrong....sorry Skip.

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

spence · 08-03-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

Yes, Skipper...it's true that Iraq had WMD, 15 years ago

Everything else you said is taken out of context and therefore not a fact in the context you seem to be assuming. I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

-spence

Bronko · 08-04-2006, 07:25 AM

I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

-spence[/QUOTE]

This is such an elitest statement.

spence · 08-04-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronko

This is such an elitest statement.

On the surface, but given that in the past year Skippy hasn't appreciated to a damn thing I've said it's more than justified.

While I may not have all the answers (yet

), I'll take my version of history up against his any time, any place

-spence

Bronko · 08-04-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

On the surface, but given that in the past year Skippy hasn't appreciated to a damn thing I've said it's more than justified.

While I may not have all the answers (yet

), I'll take my version of history up against his any time, any place

-spence

Opinion vs. opinion...beliefs vs. beliefs. This is not a classroom.

spence · 08-04-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronko

Opinion vs. opinion...beliefs vs. beliefs. This is not a classroom.

Sorry Bronko but that's just a load of horse hockey.

Opinions are based on how you process what you percieve to be reality...

Some peoples version of reality has been heavily manipulated, I try my hardest to understand what's real and what's not.

For instance, the assertion that top Democratic Congresspeople are on the record stating Saddam's WMDs justify unilateral action as believed by many (due to out of context quotes circulated by the GOP) is a proveable falsehood when put in proper context.

The information is out there if people take the time to read it.

If someone like Skipper want to make this assertion to back their argument, I will correct them.

I would hope that others would do the same when I'm in error...

-spence

Bronko · 08-04-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Sorry Bronko but that's just a load of horse hockey.

Opinions are based on how you process what you percieve to be reality...

Some peoples version of reality has been heavily manipulated, I try my hardest to understand what's real and what's not.

For instance, the assertion that top Democratic Congresspeople are on the record stating Saddam's WMDs justify unilateral action as believed by many (due to out of context quotes circulated by the GOP) is a proveable falsehood when put in proper context.

The information is out there if people take the time to read it.

If someone like Skipper want to make this assertion to back their argument, I will correct them.

I would hope that others would do the same when I'm in error...

-spence

This is why these threads spiral out of control. From this statement one must assume you know the truth or have the knowledge to teach. I guess Skip should assume that because you can spout your partisan whackery in a more eloquent fashion than he can then you are in some position to teach him? You have an OPINION, period.

His moniker is SkipN, not Skippy, Skipper or any other derivation you find cute. Let's keep the patronizing comments and erudite slights to a minimum.

Skitterpop · 08-04-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronko

I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

-spence

This is such an elitest statement.[/quote]

I disagree.... Skip does not respond to others comments...he just repeatedly regurgitates.

Skitterpop · 08-03-2006, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

I will not have a discussion of any weight with you until you study more. Now hit the books

stormfish · 08-03-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

The Kurds if I'm mistaken are Sunni Muslims and are nomads that inhabit the northern region of Iraq and mountainous areas throughout the Middle east. Like any other nomads, I believe they were quite the nuisance to the Arab World. Who cares about them?

Clinton's interest in Iraq was to have the UN inspect Iraq for WMD. Sadamn played his little game and Clinton tossed him some air strikes until Sadamn complied. Bush on the other hand invaded Iraq and succeeded in overthrowing the tyrant. It's a bit harsh isn't it? Bush just approached the situation the 'wrong' way.

What triggered the war? I don't believe it was WMD. It was the fact that Sadamn began to sell Iraq's oil in Euros instead of Dollars. His motive was to appreciate the Euro over the Dollar. Did it suceed? The Euro is currently .34 over the dollar. Iraq continues to sell oil in the Euro today.

This is the reason we haven't left Iraq today. Bush wants Iraq to have a steady government in hopes to influence Iraq to sell oil in US Dollars again. Big picture in the long run... Is it worth it? Nope! In Economics, governement intervention (that includes war) will boost GNP in the short run. But as in consuming alcohol, the alcohol is going to catch up to you if consumed too much. What does that mean? An economical hangover!

I don't believe we should intervene in Iraq or any other nation until we sort out our economical woes. Yes we're trillions of trillions in the hole!

Enjoy Skippy!

stormfish · 08-03-2006, 11:34 PM

Oh and another thing, bet your bottom dollar that when the Euro eclipses the pound, England may or shall I say will join the EMU which will influence countries like Poland and Sweden to join. Once that happens, expect for a sudden lost of allies. Who will fight any war with us now?

Skip N · 08-04-2006, 12:44 AM

Ahhh yes, Iraq is all about oil

spence · 08-04-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

Ahhh yes, Iraq is all about oil

Skippy, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OIL

Iraq, terrorisim etc...

-spence

Skitterpop · 08-04-2006, 06:54 AM

I cannot think of any war that was not founded on aquiring natural resources no matter how it was wrapped up and presented to the public.