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Old 08-04-2006, 08:47 AM   #1
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From this statement one must assume you know the truth or have the knowledge to teach. I guess Skip should assume that because you can spout your partisan whackery in a more eloquent fashion than he can then you are in some position to teach him?
We're all in a position to teach each other...quite often I learn things I didn't know or am exposed to another viewpoint by what people say. I happen to respect and appreciate this.

I'm a partisan only in that I'm a fervent supporter of the "truth" which is grossly underrepresented today by both sides. The assumption that I deeply embrace liberal or progressive policy is a product of more manipulation and very small minded.

Do I preach? You bet...it's fun. If you don't like it don't read my posts...but when people make an attempt to seriously question what I'm sayinig I try to give them a well thought out response.

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His moniker is SkipN, not Skippy, Skipper or any other derivation you find cute. Let's keep the patronizing comments and erudite slights to a minimum.
Skipper-py-loo knows I'm just having fun, perhaps when he has something worthwhile to say I'll start showing some respect



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Old 08-04-2006, 09:15 AM   #2
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Skipper-py-loo knows I'm just having fun, perhaps when he has something worthwhile to say I'll start showing some respect

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I can try to explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:25 AM   #3
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I can try to explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.
Nice!

I'm being a bit irreverent on the Skipper stuff obviously, but regarding opinions and such...let's just say I disagree.

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Nice!

I'm being a bit irreverent on the Skipper stuff obviously, but regarding opinions and such...let's just say I disagree.

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Old 08-04-2006, 09:45 AM   #5
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BAGHDAD (CNN) -- Tens of thousands of people marched through the streets of Baghdad on Friday, enthusiastically voicing support for Lebanon's Hezbollah militia.


This is what kills me, ten of thousands Iraquis rally when it comes to Isreal, why don't they rally about the thousands of Iraquis killed by other Iraquis? More Iraqi civilians have been killed by other Iraquis than any Arabs killed by Isrealis in the past 25yrs. Why dont the rally over to some shovels, start digging and build their country? Why dont the rally for ending sectarian violence?
IMHO, this is why we can never be successful, the only motivator for Arab muslims is a hate for Isreal. The extremists have capitalized on this and thrive on this to keep Hezzbolah and Al-Queda alive. There is no vision, no independent thought. Pretty Sad.
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This is what kills me, ten of thousands Iraquis rally when it comes to Isreal, why don't they rally about the thousands of Iraquis killed by other Iraquis? More Iraqi civilians have been killed by other Iraquis than any Arabs killed by Isrealis in the past 25yrs. Why dont the rally over to some shovels, start digging and build their country? Why dont the rally for ending sectarian violence?
IMHO, this is why we can never be successful, the only motivator for Arab muslims is a hate for Isreal. The extremists have capitalized on this and thrive on this to keep Hezzbolah and Al-Queda alive. There is no vision, no independent thought. Pretty Sad.
I'm pretty certain that more Muslims have been killed by terrorisim than non-Muslims, by a wide margin.

Tom Friedman makes a great point in his last book "The World is Flat"...

Basically that countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran etc... are able to avoid "taxing" their people because of state generated energy revenues... and without taxation there is no "representation."

As such, the people are not empowered, and their leadership keeps their focus elsewhere to avoid having to address their own inability to provide for their citizenry.

The assumption of the Iraq war architects was that Democracy is so universal, the Iraqi's would simply embrace their new freedom...

...but one must wonder if any of them ever really bothered reading their history texts.

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