THE STRIPER CUP LEADER BOARD

[inTHERAPY]

"If I was one of those Bass and Brew guys, tho, I'd be beaucoup pissed." I am one "of those guys" and I am not pissed, and I doubt my 7 teammates are either. Each one of us share an incredible passion for fishing...sleepless nights in anticipation, countless hours of prep, details
(i'm sure those traits are true for all of the hardcore anglers). In my mind, every single time I leave the dock is the day for the 50. I never begrudge anyone a catch, sh#t, I still want to see Majors numbers for the year. Good fishermen catch fish consistently. I have not broken 39# this year. I/we ( except for Gary, he's got 2 more fish in the 40s not even registered yet ) ) are obviously going to have to kick it up a notch if we want the Cup. See you at Striperfest. Art

[GBOUTDOORS]

I can only take two fish a day and that changes the rules as far as I see it. We must stop at two big fish we feel may count they get to cull threw 30 that is not apples for apples. Are they better fisherman than me and you could be but lets have an even playing feild. In Mass. a com. guy can not enter the state derby for just this reason so I feel next year they need to look at the way this comes down. I told the guys at the Mass leg it would all change the day after the Mass com. started and it did.If this is the way it goes next year I will not bother as the out come is for gone already. No whining here just facts this was to be for fun not set up for com. fishing or was it. I think if they keep the com. guys in for next year they will see their dream (a very good one at that) of this being a true on going tournament ending too soon. Then agian if it stays this way all we need to do is get a few com. guys to let us check in their big fish and we can fix it for us to win the cup every year as it will go to com. teams only. I would not do this but just trying to show the way this thing will head . I feel sorry for the guys at ON THE WATER as they are trying to give us something to work for but there is always a way for someone to rig the out come.

[NIB]

As a boat guy I would be targeting 40+ lb fish so u get one in ur cooler an u keep fishing.Releasing anything under 40+ till u get a bigger one.I don't understand where the problem is.sure they can cull thru 30 fish but realistcally how many huge fish do u think they catch.I think u have to consider that they are true experts.They have the knoweldge an will to forgo the price of fuel that might offset there earnings.Perhaps this is part of it. I also understand many comm guys will take there vacatins from there reg.jobs to fish as much as possible.Good for them.The replys' still sounds like sour grapes.Just Do better.Or lose.Plain an simple.
On another note I notice the shore catagory has not changed in a while.This reflects the miserable fishing I have also encountered from terra firma.Talking to Stevie Van Stahl on sunday he said this july was one of his worst in a long time he said he only had 16 fish for the month.So I'm not alone.But I'm not sure i feel any better.
Good luck an get a big one..
Tony

[GBOUTDOORS]

Nib if as you said they are paid experts then you have just made my point for me and as far as it being sour grapes you are way off with that one in my case as I do not care one way or the other and for you to say so with out knowing me is not fair I too did not check in a fish till it was over 40#.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by GBOUTDOORS

Nib if as you said they are paid experts then you have just made my point for me and as far as it being sour grapes you are way off with that one in my case as I do not care one way or the other and for you to say so with out knowing me is not fair I too did not check in a fish till it was over 40#.

I never said Paid experts.I said TRue experts.
It is realitvely easy to get a Mass Comm License right?
Perhaps u don't get what I am tryin to say.
I understand ur plight.If u read my post in a negative manner that is all u will get from it.I was tryin to be inspirational in the way i was taught.Tough love,sh!t or get off the pot.Hitch up ur draws an get out an fight.Knute Rockney I'm not i guess.
Sorry if I did offend.was not intended.

[nightprowler]

I was in #^&#^&#^&#^&'s a couple of weeks ago talking with steve and matt, the 35 and 46 that were caught before the team was formed were shore caught fish. matt was registered in the individual category as he has a 40 pin. after several regulars weighed fish in as individuals they decided they should form a team. it just happend that it was near the start of the comm season.
#^&#^&#^&#^&s is my local tackle shop and they have served me well since my grandfather taught me to fish. my very first rod was bought from steve and the majority of my gear since has come from him also.
i was simply surprised when i checked the leader board and saw that they had leap frogged teams that had been there from the begginning. maybe the fishing on the vineyard has been that good?
i know i have been taking some nice fish recently, so after a slow start on the vineyard it has finally heated up from shore...and apparently from the boat as well. i have heard of several other fish in the high 40's low 50's caught by folks who aren't comm or in the cup.
tight lines!!!

[Mike P]

NIB, how many big fish can a good comm get, realistically? I've seen guys come in this year with over 800 lbs. That's close to a 30# average on a 30 fish day.

Guys don't mind getting outfished on a level playing field. I certainly don't. If you beat me under the same rules, hey, I'll be the first to shake your hand. This isn't a comm/rec thing. This is the only tournament I know of that allows commercially caught fish to be entered. I don't have anything against commercial fishermen, just fish the OTW on your off days. If Lev went out there on a Monday and bagged that 57, hey, great job, kiddo. If Lev caught that fish on a Sunday and had two 40s in the boat, he had the advantage of keeping a fish that a rec couldn't. Still a great catch, but the deck was stacked in his favor.

Here is the other problem I have. Stevie Morris is fielding a team, OK, fine. I know Stevie is a straight shooter. It's not a problem with Stevie per se. It's a problem with what lawyers call, "the appearence of impropriety" #^&#^&#^&#^&'s is also an official weigh station--that's the reason the slips are getting in the same day they're caught. Now, if I catch a 35 lb fish on a Monday, and I take it to M&Ds to weigh, after I fill out the slip, Mike is going to send it in. If I catch a 43 lb on, say, Thursday, and weigh it in at Canal B&T, Bruce Miller is also going to send that slip in. When OTW gets it, they'll see I weighed in two fish in a week and the 43 won't count. Now, instead of being Stevie Morris, I'm Joe Sleazebag and I own a B&T. I'm a official OTW weigh station and I decide to field a team. What's to stop me from holding slips from my team for the week, and only sending in the largest fish for each member?

In the wrong hands, having your team captain as your personal weighmaster can be a problem.

Again, this is in no way a suggestion that these guys are doing that.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by NIB

Tough love,sh!t or get off the pot.Hitch up ur draws an get out an fight..

I think this belongs on Justplugits' thread about old sayings

[Slipknot]

Cumbaya Mike