THE STRIPER CUP LEADER BOARD - Page 3 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Slipknot · 08-08-2006, 04:41 PM

I can't read all this since it has morphed into I don't know what.
But I garauntee that I will have a 30 or 40 pound bass most likely on Sept. 18th

BigFish · 08-08-2006, 04:45 PM

Yah me too Slip....and I will be happy!

NIB · 08-08-2006, 05:09 PM

I have to say I mostly agree with #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.
OK,I gotta go lay down now.

Like he said these guys can fish they have big fish patterns that they have found an developed for yrs.If it was at 2 fish they would still get em. Know why I'll spell it out.They go fishing, big fish spots learned over yrs Live baits or maybe yo-yoing.Lets throw that into the mix also.They don't bother to keep anything till it is a 40+ lb fish. They fish some more throwing back all smaller fish.Only taking another fish that is 50+ lbs.The 2 fish limit allows this to happen why can't U guys with a higher than a first grade education figure this out.They don't need 30 fish to cull from They are allowed 2 that is all they need.'
GOOD FISHERMAN DON'T NEED TO CULL FROM 30 FISH TO WIN THIS. Plain an simple...
It is happening sure but they could probably do it with out a 30 fish limit if they chose to.That is my point.They are still catching the fish that is the most important part an they should be applauded for thier efforts.Would they work as dilligently at it if there was no com.season.Probably not, who can afford gas an the time off without the money 30 fish brings to offset the cost's.Well who is to say.Some are more drivin then others. I spent a week in BI an I just did a weekend in the canal my gas cost's where over 400.Plus other expense's.I will also make more trips north.I do this tourney or no.I guess we won't really know till it is changed.I bet they go out an pound us again next year with no com's allowed just to make a point.

NIB · 08-08-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

NIB, Now, instead of being Stevie Morris, I'm Joe Sleazebag and I own a B&T. I'm a official OTW weigh station and I decide to field a team. What's to stop me from holding slips from my team for the week, and only sending in the largest fish for each member?

In the wrong hands, having your team captain as your personal weighmaster can be a problem.

Again, this is in no way a suggestion that these guys are doing that.

Is this illegal??
The rule simply states that fish for the week have to be entered by Sunday.The tackle shop guy is a busy man he has more important things to do then run to the P.O. every time a angler brings a fish in.That is why u see time lapses in the report section the dates are on the slips.That is what matters everything else is buy the rules.Or am I wrong by assuming this??Plus where does it say in the rules that if a angler gets a good fish on Monday an a better one on Friday he can't pull the slip. It just states he can only register one for the week.well it's still just one.One way of fixing this is to have numbered slips with the tackle shop responsible for keeping things in order sure mistake could be made but those slips would have to come in also. A stream of improprieties could be case for suspicion.I guess any contest will have room for doubt.Like I read somewhere else in this thread we have to have more faith in Our Fellow Man or not enter.

Skitterpop · 08-08-2006, 05:30 PM

I bet they go out an pound us again next year with no com's allowed just to make a point. Tony G.

This is a nice clean shot

zacs · 08-08-2006, 05:34 PM

NIB hit the nail on the head. Those are my thoughts exactly. I just can't say it as good. You know that to win now, you are going to need 40#+ fish. So go cull through 30 fish until you get a 40#er. The only difference is you are throwing them back, they are throwing them in the tote. People cry like if they could keep 30 fish they would have 40 and 50 lb. fish to enter.

These guys are just way better fishermen.

I say congrats to them, and if any of them are reading this, I will pay gas money and use of my boat for a mentor.

Zac

Raider Ronnie · 08-08-2006, 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=Skitterpop]I bet they go out an pound us again next year with no com's allowed just to make a point.

I agree 100%
Face it, these guys know how to catch BIG fish year in year out !!!

Mike P · 08-08-2006, 05:41 PM

My understanding of the rules is, once a fish is entered, it's entered. You enter it by signing the slip. You decide before you sign the slip whether to enter it, after you see the weight. Once you sign the slip, that slip gets sent in. I think if I was to ask the weighmaster to pull that slip so I could enter a bigger one, that'd be against the rules. And most of the weighmasters would refuse to do it.

As far as Major goes---there is conflicting information on whether he's even received a citation in the mail yet. It was clear he was not issued one on the spot, as it was too rough for the single EPO working solo to board. Also, since the EPO never boarded, the illegal fish were never seized as evidence, or even photographed. OTW is in a very bad position here. Could it be possible that, after the EPO conferred with his superior officer, the conversation went something like, "Gee, it's all well and good that you claim you saw 4 bass over the limit, but we don't have the fish, and we don't even have a picture of the fish. I think it'd be a waste of time to even cite the guy."? Can they disqualify a guy based on internet hearsay? Was the person who posted here when it happened, purporting to be Bill Major and admitting to a "miscue", even Bill Major? Major has 2 of the 5 keys to the lock that gives away the truck in his pocket. There is every possibility he'd institute legal action against OTW were they to disqualify him without a conviction in a court of law, or an unambiguous admission on his part.

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 05:53 PM

I have no doubt those guys are way better fishermen and have proven ways to catch (live bait, yo-yo...or whatever) and probaly would win regardless of having a comm license..........so why not change the rules to no comms can weigh in during comm season???
I loose Sept and Oct....my real chance at a good fish and Im sure the same for a lot of surf guys
also I could give a rats a$$......I fish for fun....entered just in case and maybe win the boat

never claimed to be a GENIUS....last time I checked ...wasnt a LADY...and think Im older than 5............if any of that was directed at me...I take offense

NIB · 08-08-2006, 06:03 PM

Was not directed at u slinga so don't go get ur panties in a bunch.
In fact after re reading it I felt there where some parts of my post that where not
neccessary To make my point so I deleted em.Sorry.

Mike P · 08-08-2006, 06:06 PM

• Angler’s are allowed to enter and weigh only one (1) fish per week.
• Fish must be at least 34 inches in length to weigh in.
• Fish must be weighed at a registered weigh station sanctioned by the tournament.

• By signing the weigh-in slip, the fisherman attests to all information given.

Sounds to me like once that fish hits the scale, you're stuck with that fish for the week.

The Derby rules are a little different--or were before the state went to 2 bass a day. You could enter the heaviest bluefish, albie or bonito of the day, but only one bass a day. In other words, if you went to the weigh-in with a 12 pound blue in the morning, you could enter a 14 pounder in the evening. Same with a bonito. However, when the bass limit was one per day, you could only weigh in one a day. A fish was considered to be "entered" when you presented it to the weighmaster and announced your badge number and division (boat or shore, or fly rod boat or shore). I haven't fished it since Mass went to the 2 bass bag, so I don't know how it works now. I'm assuming you can enter two a day, with only your heaviest counting.

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 06:11 PM

panties un- bunched......

not really mad....just alot of name calling...not neccessary

NIB · 08-08-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingah

panties un- bunched......

not really mad....just alot of name calling...not neccessary

I agree we are all friends here having a normal conversation right?
Sometimes I lose track of that.

BigFish · 08-08-2006, 06:41 PM

Because this is a fishing forum....could we please refer to it as "waders in a bunch"? Thanks....a bunch!

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Because this is a fishing forum....could we please refer to it as "waders in a bunch"? Thanks....a bunch!

no joking...this is serious buisness

tattoobob · 08-08-2006, 07:25 PM

It looks to me like alot of typing for nothing, it is what it is for this year,
there is nothing to be done about it now.
it is going to take 10- 40 to 45 pound fish to win so get out and fish,
I am not weighing a fish in this year, I am not worthy

Slipknot · 08-08-2006, 07:30 PM

Nib, you need to tell us all how you really feel

I think everything was laid out ahead of time, so everyone plays by the same rules comm or rec. It doesn't matter whether you fish for fun or fish as a pro for money, ya still have as much right to enter this striper cup as the next guy.

Having said that I find a comparison to golf in this argument you guys are making. Ya don't see many golf tournaments that have both pros and amatuer golfers in the same tourney except pro-ams, and those have their own format. I know it's not comparing apples to oranges.

OK now having said that, I agree with nib

I guess it's the dog days of summer

I entered so I could have a chance at that boat too Slinah

shore fishing is getting limited these days for sure.

Skitterpop · 08-08-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Because this is a fishing forum....could we please refer to it as "waders in a bunch"? Thanks....a bunch!

I wear neoprene waders inside breathables because I don`t want other fishers to know I hate even cool water..

Mike P · 08-08-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

I agree we are all friends here having a normal conversation right?
Sometimes I lose track of that.

Aw, gee, let's all hold hands and sing.

On three----"We are the world, we are the children..."

Slipknot · 08-08-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Tough love,sh!t or get off the pot.Hitch up ur draws an get out an fight..

I think this belongs on Justplugits' thread about old sayings

Slipknot · 08-08-2006, 07:56 PM

Cumbaya Mike

eelman · 08-08-2006, 07:59 PM

Something else interesting, there is NOTHING in the rules that say when you have to weigh a fish in, there is NOTHING in the rules that prevent you from keeping a fish on ice for the following week...nothing so its perfectly legal in the rules , that if you catch two 40s in one night you can keep one for the follwing week.......

Mike P · 08-08-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Something else interesting, there is NOTHING in the rules that say when you have to weigh a fish in, there is NOTHING in the rules that prevent you from keeping a fish on ice for the following week...nothing so its perfectly legal in the rules , that if you catch two 40s in one night you can keep one for the follwing week.......

You are correct. And in Mass, as long as you never have more than two fish in your possession over that week, you're also perfectly within the law. You could legally keep one a night for the whole week the other was on ice.

Of course, over a week like the last one with 3 days of 100+ degree temps, there's no guarantee your 40 would still be a 40, even if it was iced

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

You are correct. And in Mass, as long as you never have more than two fish in your possession over that week, you're also perfectly within the law. You could legally keep one a night for the whole week the other was on ice.

Of course, over a week like the last one with 3 days of 100+ degree temps, there's no guarantee your 40 would still be a 40, even if it was iced

and what a waste...who is gonna eat a week old bass

tattoobob · 08-08-2006, 09:32 PM

My cats will

CAL · 08-08-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

It is not all whining and jealousy, it is called putting down a somewhat level playing field so everyone gets to play by the same rules. There is quantifiable advantage - when played to the letter of the law - to the commercial rod & reel angler in this tournament. It is currently allowed in the rules by OTW, and no reason to change it mid stream for this season. But it is fact that it favors the commercial angler during this tournament. It is fact that it is not a level playing field for all anglers in this tourney. I'm not against commercial fishing for bass (not very pro either - just don't think that debate is the problem) - this is not a rec -v- comm thing and this is not a boat -v- surf thing. It is a numbers game and the number potential during a day of fishing is staggered in the comm bass fisher's favor.

Jealousy has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Thank you John for saying that. I'm so sick of guys saying things like this are all about jealosy. That's got nothing to do with it.

Anyone with half a brain knows the comms have an advantage under these rules. But that's the rules for this year. Deal with it.

Will the comms be in the running next year if they can't weigh in fish during the comm season, most likely. They know how to catch big fish. But it helps level the field quite a bit.

NIB · 08-09-2006, 05:58 AM

Just call Me.
Tony Morone.

ThrowingTimber · 08-09-2006, 06:28 AM

Lets not finger point. Personally I could care less if they catch whales. I'm more concerned with the sb team giving it a good effort. SO lets save the ph#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g griping for the january and go the phuck fishing.

Making us look like a bunch of ph#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& p[-]ssies on here ph#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g whining, stop %$%$%$%$ing typing and complaining about chit and %$%$%$%$ing get 'er done. The victory will be that much sweeter.

Raider Ronnie · 08-09-2006, 06:32 AM

I can't believe reading all this arguing and name calling,
All for what, and stupid pin and bragging rights !!!
They (striper cup) should have a list of cash prizes instead of a stupid pin !!!
On the water must be making a KILLING on this stupid contest, and the grand prizi (the boat) was most likely donated !!!

Mike P · 08-09-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

On the water must be making a KILLING on this stupid contest, and the grand prizi (the boat) was most likely donated !!!

Hope so, maybe now they'll start paying more for articles

Spoken like the knucklehead I am, I guess