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Old 08-14-2006, 06:49 PM   #1
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Just needs to be handled extra carully. I havn't had any problems, but I alsways am very careful with it.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:28 PM   #2
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Tagger, the most important hint I can give is that once you have your braid on the reel. Tie the end to your truck or a tree and walk it all off. Then reel it back on with a lot of tension(rod bent almost double). This will eliminate the soft base. So when you get a backlash, it won't dig in deep. The first hundred yards or so will be looser from use, but , you won't have to dig deep in the spool just to find the loop that's causing the trouble. If you are leveling it yourself, cross it up more than you would mono, for the same reason.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:03 PM   #3
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I have been using it for 2 years on 2 reels..No problems at all..

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Old 08-15-2006, 03:31 PM   #4
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Tagger, the most important hint I can give is that once you have your braid on the reel. Tie the end to your truck or a tree and walk it all off. Then reel it back on with a lot of tension(rod bent almost double). This will eliminate the soft base. So when you get a backlash, it won't dig in deep. The first hundred yards or so will be looser from use, but , you won't have to dig deep in the spool just to find the loop that's causing the trouble. If you are leveling it yourself, cross it up more than you would mono, for the same reason.
That makes sense to me ,, keeping the base hard under the fluff that naturally occurs from working different plugs .. that and more crossing pattern on the spool Nib also mentioned.. Been kinda waiting until I got more knowledge before putting braid on Conventional again .. maybe I'll give it one more shot .. Thanks

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Old 08-15-2006, 04:36 PM   #5
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Been considering a switch from mono to braid but keep hearing stories like this and keep asking myself if it's worth the trouble. So far, it seems the answer is,,, probably not.
If you guys are willing to endure all this, what the jimminy am I missing? I've no problems at all with the mono. Why would one bother?
Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering why bother?

Getting set up with a conventional and am seriously considering braid (PP). seems like braid is designed with a tilt towards conventional more than spinning,,,,, but couldbe wrong.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:00 PM   #6
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Been considering a switch from mono to braid but keep hearing stories like this and keep asking myself if it's worth the trouble. So far, it seems the answer is,,, probably not.
If you guys are willing to endure all this, what the jimminy am I missing? I've no problems at all with the mono. Why would one bother?
Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering why bother?

Getting set up with a conventional and am seriously considering braid (PP). seems like braid is designed with a tilt towards conventional more than spinning,,,,, but couldbe wrong.
What say you?
Why.. Ok talking spinning ..1 braid has no memory like mono so it goes straight out thru the guides (no choking).. Huge atvantage in casting distance ,fishing heavier pound test ,while using lures that are very light.(bomber types).. 2. the feel ... no strech .. you can feel the hits and every little viration like the fish is in your hands. I have absolutely no problem with these lines on spinning gear and in fact love it .. Only draw back to these high tech lines is fishing rocks ..Under tension (fish) there are no see saw battles on the rocks .. line breaks quite easily . Mono still king of the rock pile .

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Old 08-15-2006, 07:02 PM   #7
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Why.. Ok talking spinning ..1 braid has no memory like mono so it goes straight out thru the guides (no choking).. Huge atvantage in casting distance ,fishing heavier pound test ,while using lures that are very light.(bomber types).. 2. the feel ... no strech .. you can feel the hits and every little viration like the fish is in your hands. I have absolutely no problem with these lines on spinning gear and in fact love it .. Only draw back to these high tech lines is fishing rocks ..Under tension (fish) there are no see saw battles on the rocks .. line breaks quite easily . Mono still king of the rock pile .
Like Eddie said. Feeling the plug working is a real plus.

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Old 08-15-2006, 07:39 PM   #8
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I can feel a fish pass gas with braid.
I primarily use 30 lb fireline around rocks an I have had good success with the abraision factor.

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Old 08-15-2006, 08:18 PM   #9
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Are you using a 4500 baitrunner? I have 3 of them and they do tend to have some issues with pp braid. I have multiple spools for each of them and pp does foul up far more on this reel then other shimanos. IMO The reason is that 4500 baitrunners do NOT have the "super slow ossillation" of the spool that their other reels do. It works, but not as well as the stratic and stella types. With these reels you can actaully tune the spool to lay the line on there in a certain fashion that is braid friendly and the spools lays the line on there nice and slow (like rope on a spool, instead of up and down real fast) If this is your problem you might try another braid or switch to mono...or buy another reel that works with braid. (fireline may work better...but it is not as thin as PP)
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:11 PM   #10
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Are you using a 4500 baitrunner? I have 3 of them and they do tend to have some issues with pp braid. I have multiple spools for each of them and pp does foul up far more on this reel then other shimanos. IMO The reason is that 4500 baitrunners do NOT have the "super slow ossillation" of the spool that their other reels do. It works, but not as well as the stratic and stella types. With these reels you can actaully tune the spool to lay the line on there in a certain fashion that is braid friendly and the spools lays the line on there nice and slow (like rope on a spool, instead of up and down real fast) If this is your problem you might try another braid or switch to mono...or buy another reel that works with braid. (fireline may work better...but it is not as thin as PP)

I wonder how the "ossilation" on my 706z is.It does have a nice big an narrow spool.
I bet the folks over at shimano made that word up.

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