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08-20-2006, 04:52 PM
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Flap, I understand your frustration about not being able to get what you need and want. I have not had a bass over 20 pounds in more than 6 weeks, I can easily barter some of those needles you mentioned for just one phone call invite you remember right?  weather permiting of course. 
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2006, 04:53 PM
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Wow, this thread took a long time to read
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2006, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Ya,an now u made it longer.How was the seal fishin.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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08-20-2006, 05:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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almost conked one off the noggin with a howdy when he popped up in front of me.
one swirled my plug too.
lots of mung and weed where we went
how's the schoolie fishing
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2006, 05:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Yesterday was a eating fest.I been sitting at the puter tying up smilin bills all day so i don't have to do it in that fall.We have fish.I'm gonna give it a go later.i'm gonna go for my Daily bikeride to the store to get smokes. 
Then watch the Crap Sox get pounded by the evil empire again.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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08-20-2006, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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watching gibbs quality go steadily downhill over the last decade was a sad thing to see. IF i am to buy a current giibs lure on the wall, it is like buying a lure from one of the older custom wooden lures that used to be made - pick one up, look at it, inspect it for being true, centered, etc., and it's sad to say how many i would put one back while trying to find 2 or 3 to buy. when i do buy that new gibbs lure, the first thing i do is open the package, cut the wire and throw away the wire, hooks, and barrels. then, replace it with quality and hope the wood makes it a season. i see i am not alone in doing that and most have had worse luck w/ the lure not even making it thru a tide. again, sad.
now, i would still gladly fish a gibbs IF they changed several things. first, they need to go down one of 2 roads: 1.) keep the quality where it is now and reduce the price by at least 20-30%. or, 2.) leave the price where it is now and use better barrels, vmc hooks, seal all the plugs, dont cut corners when making darters, bottles, painting (crude at that these days), sanding, etc., (and please, thru wire that plug already!). as for the pricing comment, i have seen there prices steadily grow to try and keep up with other lure builders whose quality are always on top. gibbs has changed nothing, but increased their prices. sure, i can see a moderate price increase due to price incrase for oil, materials, etc., but not to the degree they are at now from where they were 10 years ago.
when gibbs decided to make the "pro series" needle, that was just a slap in the face. instead, why not make the "pro series" be one of their current plug designs, but w/ all the improvements already mentioned by me and others? gibbs took a 2oz habs needle and cloned it as best they could, which is still far from the quality of a real habs.
the current owners of gibbs are running off the history of the company to sell their plugs and not caring too much about their future. if they keep up business as they currently are, gibbs will only sell themselves out of the market.
capesams - i would have liked to have seen someone w/ your abilities take gibbs when the opportunity arose. i've seen your 40s and other lures. i'm sure you'd make their current danny lure something worth throwing again.
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08-20-2006, 07:17 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
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The comparison between Gibbs and Habs will go on and on.
Gibbs finish on the Pro Pencils does not compair to Habs. On every gibbs lure made there is Tareout. I 'm Not getting on them but it is a fact. You can go to my wall ang get any Gibbs plug and see that. Their belly holes are now not even filled in smooth (sunken).
It's getting to the point that we as a shop have to decide if the flaws and complaints are worth carring their product.The only thing that keeps Gibbs selling is their available.
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