bush's speach...

[Nebe]

the true irony is that none of the bush whackers noticed that i miss-spelled "speech"

in all honesty, One of the sad reasons he is in power is a result of the wealthy elite's wishes of dumbing down the american masses by constant cuts in funding our nation's public schools- the result is a country full of gullible god/terrorist fearing sheeple- And to add insult to injury by putting lipstick on the pig so to speak, Bush created the no child left behind act because things have gotten so bad.. However, nobody asks why the american public schools are going down the toilet.

the fortunate ones who have had the luxury of a quality education are either really upset at what is going on, or are making so much $$$ they want it to keep going on.

[BigFish]

My point is that whenever there is a crisis somewhere in the world......earthquake, Tsunami, what ever......the US is right there with aid, money and all kinds of help within hours!!!! We had Katrina devastate Louisiana, right here in our own country and we can't even get water to those in need there much less the kind of help we give to other countries!!!!!!!!!! I blame the President for that!!! The Governor of Louisiana begged for help and it fell on deaf ears....and people died!

[Raven]

great name..... he's a man of god

[Skitterpop]

If you believe in George W. that says it all....end of story.

The guy is a more than stupid figurehead for a more than corrupt power corporation group.... If you can`t see it you`re not worth talking to.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

If you believe in George W. that says it all....end of story.

The guy is a more than stupid figurehead for a more than corrupt power corporation group.... If you can`t see it you`re not worth talking to.

Don't confuse believeing in Bush with totally disbelieving the alternative.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Don't confuse believeing in Bush with totally disbelieving the alternative.

So what exactly would that be?

-spence

[Skitterpop]

. . .

[NaCl H2O]

Originally Posted by spence

So what exactly would that be?

-spence

Hanoi John.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by BigFish

My point is that whenever there is a crisis somewhere in the world......earthquake, Tsunami, what ever......the US is right there with aid, money and all kinds of help within hours!!!! We had Katrina devastate Louisiana, right here in our own country and we can't even get water to those in need there much less the kind of help we give to other countries!!!!!!!!!! I blame the President for that!!! The Governor of Louisiana begged for help and it fell on deaf ears....and people died!

I found the misspelling of "Speach" to be pretty insignifigant in the realm of the subject and not worthy of correction. No doubt the escalation of the disaster after the Levee failure (and no Bush didn't blow them up) showed defeciencies in all levels of Government from local to federal. But any way you look at it Blanco has as much blood on her hands as anyone else, (except for School Bus Nagin).

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Nebe

the true irony is that none of the bush whackers noticed that i miss-spelled "speech"

in all honesty, One of the sad reasons he is in power is a result of the wealthy elite's wishes of dumbing down the american masses by constant cuts in funding our nation's public schools- the result is a country full of gullible god/terrorist fearing sheeple- And to add insult to injury by putting lipstick on the pig so to speak, Bush created the no child left behind act because things have gotten so bad.. However, nobody asks why the american public schools are going down the toilet.

the fortunate ones who have had the luxury of a quality education are either really upset at what is going on, or are making so much $$$ they want it to keep going on.

Title I aid to local school districts. Increased by $1 billion, from $11.35 billion proposed for FY 2003 to $12.35 billion for FY 2004. Title I provides federal aid to disadvantaged schools and students, with significant flexibility for local school officials to decide how funds are spent. When the President’s FY 2003 request for Title I is enacted, federal Title I funding will have received a larger increase during the first two years of President George W. Bush’s administration than during the previous seven years combined under President Bill Clinton. The President’s FY 2004 Budget adds $1 billion on top of that for Title I.

Reading First. Increased by $75 million, from $1.075 billion proposed for FY 2003 to $1.150 billion for FY 2004. President Bush’s Reading First initiative, created by the No Child Left Behind Act, tripled federal funding for reading programs and awards grants to states and school districts that use proven reading instruction methods rooted in scientifically-based research. In his original NCLB blueprint, the President committed to providing $5 billion for Reading First over a 5-year period. The President’s FY 2004 Budget keeps the federal government on track toward meeting that goal.

Early Reading First. Increased by $25 million, or 33 percent. Early Reading First is the preschool component of the Reading First initiative.

Transition to Teaching. Increased by $10 million, from $39.4 million proposed for FY 2003 to $49.4 million for FY 2004.

Troops to Teachers. Increased by $5 million, from $20 million proposed for FY 2003 to $25 million for FY 2004.

State Assessments. Increased by $3 million, from $387 million proposed for FY 2003 to $390 million for FY 2004. Hundreds of millions of federal dollars have been provided to states annually to help them design and implement their annual statewide tests in reading and math in grades 3-8. The President’s FY 2004 Budget provides even more.

Charter School Grants. Increased by $20 million, from $200 million proposed for FY 2003 to $220 million for FY 2004. This program increases public school choice options by supporting the planning, development, and initial implementation of public charter schools across the nation.

Choice Incentive Fund. Increased by $25 million, from $50 million proposed for FY 2003 to $75 million for FY 2004. This proposed initiative would provide the parents of children who attend underachieving schools with expanded opportunities for transferring their children to a higher-performing public, charter, or private school.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Title I aid to local school districts. Increased by $1 billion, from $11.35 billion proposed for FY 2003 to $12.35 billion for FY 2004. Title I provides federal aid to disadvantaged schools and students, with significant flexibility for local school officials to decide how funds are spent. When the President’s FY 2003 request for Title I is enacted, federal Title I funding will have received a larger increase during the first two years of President George W. Bush’s administration than during the previous seven years combined under President Bill Clinton. The President’s FY 2004 Budget adds $1 billion on top of that for Title I.

Reading First. Increased by $75 million, from $1.075 billion proposed for FY 2003 to $1.150 billion for FY 2004. President Bush’s Reading First initiative, created by the No Child Left Behind Act, tripled federal funding for reading programs and awards grants to states and school districts that use proven reading instruction methods rooted in scientifically-based research. In his original NCLB blueprint, the President committed to providing $5 billion for Reading First over a 5-year period. The President’s FY 2004 Budget keeps the federal government on track toward meeting that goal.

Early Reading First. Increased by $25 million, or 33 percent. Early Reading First is the preschool component of the Reading First initiative.

Transition to Teaching. Increased by $10 million, from $39.4 million proposed for FY 2003 to $49.4 million for FY 2004.

Troops to Teachers. Increased by $5 million, from $20 million proposed for FY 2003 to $25 million for FY 2004.

State Assessments. Increased by $3 million, from $387 million proposed for FY 2003 to $390 million for FY 2004. Hundreds of millions of federal dollars have been provided to states annually to help them design and implement their annual statewide tests in reading and math in grades 3-8. The President’s FY 2004 Budget provides even more.

Charter School Grants. Increased by $20 million, from $200 million proposed for FY 2003 to $220 million for FY 2004. This program increases public school choice options by supporting the planning, development, and initial implementation of public charter schools across the nation.

Choice Incentive Fund. Increased by $25 million, from $50 million proposed for FY 2003 to $75 million for FY 2004. This proposed initiative would provide the parents of children who attend underachieving schools with expanded opportunities for transferring their children to a higher-performing public, charter, or private school.

And many of these programs (and others) have now been cur significantly or eliminated all together for 2005 and 2006 and proposed for 2007.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And many of these programs (and others) have now been cur significantly or eliminated all together for 2005 and 2006 and proposed for 2007.

The Kings invisible clothes

[sokinwet]

What I find truly encouraging is that 4 years ago you would never find a negative word about GB on any fishing or hunting forum as sportsmen tend to be a conservative group. Perhaps people are finally seeing through the spin and hype to look at the substance.

[spence]

Originally Posted by sokinwet

What I find truly encouraging is that 4 years ago you would never find a negative word about GB on any fishing or hunting forum as sportsmen tend to be a conservative group. Perhaps people are finally seeing through the spin and hype to look at the substance.

That's because most genuine people are willing to accept that performance and honesty are simply more important than idiology in the end...

-spence

[mekcotuit]

Originally Posted by spence

That's because most genuine people are willing to accept that performance and honesty are simply more important than idiology in the end...

-spence

Spence ! - a new Bushie adjective = idiology:derived from idiot...

[NaCl H2O]

Originally Posted by sokinwet

What I find truly encouraging is that 4 years ago you would never find a negative word about GB on any fishing or hunting forum as sportsmen tend to be a conservative group. Perhaps people are finally seeing through the spin and hype to look at the substance.

Are you one of the ones that have changed their opinion of the president over the period of his time in office, or have you always disliked him? I suspect the latter. Bush's detractors have always been there. After 6 years of unrelentless hammering by the press I can see why you and your ilk feel emboldened to speak out now.

[spence]

Originally Posted by NaCl H2O

After 6 years of unrelentless hammering by the press I can see why you and your ilk feel emboldened to speak out now.

Hmmmm...

From 2001-2003 the press was Bush's lapdog, simply restating Administration positions as fact...

Since they have reported on the Administrations massive policy blunders...and Bush's %$%$%$%$ does indeed stink.

I seem to remember Clinton being hammered as well, and most of it was due to fabricated scandals...some he certainly did deserve.

So what exactly is the problem again? The press laying down and taking it on the run up to Iraq? Because other than that they've been doing their job...I'd argue not enough!

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by NaCl H2O

Are you one of the ones that have changed their opinion of the president over the period of his time in office, or have you always disliked him? I suspect the latter. Bush's detractors have always been there. After 6 years of unrelentless hammering by the press I can see why you and your ilk feel emboldened to speak out now.

6 years of unrelentless hammering? Emboldened to speak out now?



Has anyone lost their jobs or public standings for speaking out? Our media is so curtailed. Life in a bubble eh?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And many of these programs (and others) have now been cur significantly or eliminated all together for 2005 and 2006 and proposed for 2007.

thankyou

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And many of these programs (and others) have now been cur significantly or eliminated all together for 2005 and 2006 and proposed for 2007.

Correct. The total cuts amount to 5% over FY 04 spending. But this needs to be kept in perspective. The original post on the subject focused on the 5% cut with no mention of the initial 17% increase.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Correct. The total cuts amount to 5% over FY 04 spending. But this needs to be kept in perspective. The original post on the subject focused on the 5% cut with no mention of the initial 17% increase.

Since when is throwing money at the problem the solution anyway?

This is a serious problem with the GOP today. They have a deep distrust in the government's ability to solve social problems (as many conservatives do) yet couldn't stop spending to save their lives...

The net result is worse effectiveness that costs the taxpayers more.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Since when is throwing money at the problem the solution anyway?

This is a serious problem with the GOP today. They have a deep distrust in the government's ability to solve social problems (as many conservatives do) yet couldn't stop spending to save their lives...

The net result is worse effectiveness that costs the taxpayers more.

-spence

So I take it you are against additional funding for education?

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

So I take it you are against additional funding for education?

I'm not against Federal funding in principal, although I believe only about 7% of school budgets on average comes from the Federal budget...and there's little return on the investment.

Schools today are struggling to meet NCLB requirements and can't focus on quality overall.

I think our entire system needs to be re-tooled to meet the needs of the Global economy.

I'd like to see the teachers union done away with, and higher education dramatically expanded...we need to get some business people in there to focus on improving operational effeciencies and quality of service...rather than trying to scale a non-scalable system.

-spence

[NaCl H2O]

Originally Posted by Nebe

the true irony is that none of the bush whackers noticed that i miss-spelled "speech"

Nice try