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09-22-2006, 11:35 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Originally Posted by Skitterpop
I like Skips idea as well.
The very 1st and 2nd PlugFest were down Cape and there were no sponsors... just some great builders meeting to talk, swap plugs, and fish. No offense to all the commercial builders but it does`nt fit the current event in Rhody either..... looks to commercial.
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Maybe we're thinking different things but the first were in Slip's garage... If you are thinking about the Plugger's Bash then we're thinking different things. And what looks too comercial? The shirt? I was shooting for something a little different than slapping S-B on a shirt, something truly different and cool....
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09-22-2006, 11:37 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Put that on the back John and the "S-B" from the bumper sticker on the front left breastical? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-22-2006, 11:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Maybe we're thinking different things but the first were in Slip's garage... If you are thinking about the Plugger's Bash then we're thinking different things. And what looks too comercial? The shirt? I was shooting for something a little different than slapping S-B on a shirt, something truly different and cool....
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SB.com has an AWESOME logo, A great looking striper with the American flag in the backround, with Striped-Bass.com underneath the fish. Its perfect in my opinion. If you're gonne have a shirt and call it the official SB.com shirt, how can we not have the logo on the shirt? I think we overlooked the obvious and tried to get to flashy.
Everyone loves the SB.com logo already, yet when it comes time to print shirts, it totally gets overlooked. Johns design is fanstasic, but that would be a great shirt to make up for the Plugfest or something like that, not as the official shirt of the sight.
This sites logo is fantastic! Lets print that bad boy on a shirt and be proud of this site! After all, everyone who is a member or people who browse this site frequently, will instantly recognize this site's great logo on a shirt! They will see this sight, and the logo on the shirt, and put two and two together.
Seems kinda obvious to me! But i dont have any say in this, just giving my .02
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09-23-2006, 12:01 AM
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Its nice and simple and this IS what i think of when i think of this site! A good sized image of this on the back, and maybe a smaller image ont he breast on the front. Its perfect! Ok i'm being annoying i know, but i just cant understand how this would not make a kick ass shirt?! I think of this before i think of Plugs and Plug Builders.
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09-23-2006, 12:10 AM
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I agree // when you first look at it --like you said it looks kinda like a concert shirt //
no offerce sponosors [sp]
but the way it is now it looks like there was a plug fiast & you could get a shirt at it ;;
gotta be the shade of blue [[[ & its gotta have the S/ B logo =============== that is what site we are on & that what we are proud of //nothing againt the plug site ,But that shirt looks like a plug site shirt ;;;
no problem //being the shipper //at least the members will get them while they are alive .,.,., 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
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09-23-2006, 05:19 PM
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...and in person!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Its nice and simple and this IS what i think of when i think of this site! A good sized image of this on the back, and maybe a smaller image ont he breast on the front. Its perfect! Ok i'm being annoying i know, but i just cant understand how this would not make a kick ass shirt?! I think of this before i think of Plugs and Plug Builders.
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I'd love to see a regular rectangular bumper sticker of the logo.
that would look sweet and take no extra design time - provided you already have a high resolution version.
and, you could easily slap it up through cafe-press
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09-23-2006, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeTLive
I'd love to see a regular rectangular bumper sticker of the logo.
that would look sweet and take no extra design time - provided you already have a high resolution version.
and, you could easily slap it up through cafe-press
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Yeah, some stickers of the Official SB.com logo would kick ass too!
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09-23-2006, 02:28 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Everybodys got an opinion. I like the shirt. Put me down for 3 XXLs. in whatever color you pick as long as it's not blue.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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09-23-2006, 06:26 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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i need at least 4. great job john! 2 xl and 2 xxl
Last edited by afterhours; 09-23-2006 at 06:51 AM..
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09-23-2006, 06:47 AM
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I'm sorry John
But if the shirts are printed as is, I'll pass on them !
This is typical of stuff on this site,
Boat fish don't count, only fish caught on wood plugs count,commercial fishing is bad, yo yoing is wrong, ect.........
I'm not going knock plug building as I like plugs as much as the next guy, but if you're going to do a SITE shirt, it needs to incorporate a bit of every thing the site represents, the flag logo included (paid sponsors also)
Not a just plug building !
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09-23-2006, 07:04 AM
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John,
I am in for 3
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09-23-2006, 07:48 AM
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Location: Sturbridge MA
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Whatever design you make i will take 4. Sure we all have opinions on what the shirt should look like, i for 1 will take whatever you decide on. Whatever it looks like we will all know it represents S-B. We dont need a logo to spell it out for us.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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09-23-2006, 07:58 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Those Raiders fans sure do cry when things don't go their way!
I know one or two boat guys that fish plugs!
How about a pic of plugs on the back and a guy wire line jigging on the front? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-23-2006, 06:40 AM
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John put me down for two xxxl. ThomT
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09-23-2006, 09:13 AM
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John,
What's on the front ?
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Enjoying Life !
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09-23-2006, 09:16 AM
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Location: Southern NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Maybe we're thinking different things but the first were in Slip's garage... If you are thinking about the Plugger's Bash then we're thinking different things. And what looks too comercial? The shirt? I was shooting for something a little different than slapping S-B on a shirt, something truly different and cool....
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Duh me  sworry Still way too busy for me... looks like an ad for those sponsors....
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Good health and family
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09-23-2006, 09:46 AM
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Its def a shirt for the Sponsers, the first thing you notice about the shirt is the sponsers, i had to look hard to see the Striped-bass.com on it! Let the sponsers put out thier own shirts, and let the site have a shirt thats just for SB.com. To over the top, i'd walk around feeling like a freakin car at a Nascar race with all the damn sponsers and adds posted on my back!!
This shirt shouldnt be dedicated to one group or a few sponsers, it should be a shirt that includes ALL Sb.com members and isnt a walking advertisment for Sponsers and Plug builders. The Striper/American flag is simple, yet classy, and includes ALL Striped-Bass.com members. And its our offical logo after all!! And is focused on the site ONLY and not Sponsers.
I'm with RR on this, as much as i like the she current design on the shirt, its to over the top for me to actually wear.
And the fact that Skitterpop and I actaully agree on this, should tell you something is seriosly wrong with the concept of the shirt!
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09-23-2006, 10:27 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Its def a shirt for the Sponsers, the first thing you notice about the shirt is the sponsers, i had to look hard to see the Striped-bass.com on it! Let the sponsers put out thier own shirts, and let the site have a shirt thats just for SB.com. To over the top, i'd walk around feeling like a freakin car at a Nascar race with all the damn sponsers and adds posted on my back!!
This shirt shouldnt be dedicated to one group or a few sponsers, it should be a shirt that includes ALL Sb.com members and isnt a walking advertisment for Sponsers and Plug builders. The Striper/American flag is simple, yet classy, and includes ALL Striped-Bass.com members. And its our offical logo after all!! And is focused on the site ONLY and not Sponsers.
I'm with RR on this, as much as i like the she current design on the shirt, its to over the top for me to actually wear.
And the fact that Skitterpop and I actaully agree on this, should tell you something is seriosly wrong with the concept of the shirt!
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And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.
At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?
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09-23-2006, 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.
At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?
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John, who would object to a simple White T shirt with the official SB logo on the back?? Thats all i'm saying, you can't go wrong with that design. Its simple and straight to the point. Simple is always better, alot of people dont like flashy stuff.
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09-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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I have a few TheHullTruth tshirts,
They make it very clear of what the hull truth is even for someone who never heard of that site.
It comes down to this,
Are we doing a shirt desigh for the site or plug building ???
If you (John) are doing a shirt for plug building it's awesome, and I don't want to make you think all the time & work you put into it is not appreciated,
But I thought this was a FISHING site !!!
Not one that caters to only 1 portion of it's members !
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09-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question. I think Johns idea is to have a shirt that will sell to the LARGEST number here or am I missing something here? If the shirt is not to help bring money to the site then yes any design would be fine. But if it is to bring $$$$$$$ to the site then you would want a shirt that would give you the best sales to the MOST number of members. To that end John I would be willing to donate up to $500.00 for the print work of a SB.com logo shirt that sells SB.com only and I will not ask to have my name put on it  just want the first shirt.
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21' striper D/C Yamaha 150 HPDI named PLAIN JANE
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09-23-2006, 11:53 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Damn - who knew this would hit 3 pages faster than an #^^^^^^& thread  ?
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The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question.
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OK moneybags  - Maybe I'm just beating myself over the head a little with the whole shirt thing. And no, I would not have you do that
If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?
As for this appearing just for the plugs, we have ALL different kinds of anglers here and one of the most consistant threads in our community is the custom plugs beacuse a lot of people fish them - not talking about building - but fish them, from surf, canal, boat, yak.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-23-2006, 12:13 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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"You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-23-2006, 12:23 PM
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It's about respect baby!
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John,
Please understand that I am in no way attempting to take away from what you've done. It can be tweaked though and I'm willing to help.
Very simple design:
Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font
Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink.
Or you could do a picture of a guy hooked up to a fish on the back.
The design shown:
John the design you show looks very busy and Im getting the idea that the main focus are three dif. things but they realy dont all play well together. 1. the sb logo. 2. the lures, looks great! but as was mentioned maybe a bit much I mean I love it, but not tied together with 1 & 3. Section three looks like it was tacked on as after thought. Again Im not attacking your work just giving my opinion. If anything I'm willing to help you work on this
Suggestions for the current design would be to increase the font size of the logo name on the back, and remove the sponsor names from the back of the shirt. This makes section 1 and 2 place a little nicer together.
Take the sponsors names, every sponsor: Have them run listed horizontally but in clear text on the sleeves of the T's.
Or have the art work on the front of the shirt, and the sb logo, same as the stickers on the back of the shirt with a listing of the sponsors on the back of the shirt. This would make soo much more sense with mock ups. If I have time today I'll hop on it.
Last edited by ThrowingTimber; 09-23-2006 at 12:35 PM..
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09-23-2006, 05:25 PM
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...and in person!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
...I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
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how long did it take before you did the s-b.com stickers and the short-lived hat?
heck, how long did it take the various 'xperts here to master their particular craft.
it will be ready when its ready and not before or after.
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09-23-2006, 10:20 AM
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Sorry but no thanks do not like it. Seems to be a ad for plugs not SB.com I know they put up money but so have many others here year after year and they do not ask to have a shirt for it. I may be getting old and cranky but I am disappointed in the design 
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09-23-2006, 10:27 AM
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john,
the shirt looks like this is STRICKly a plug building website, not a striped bass website
plain logo.....classy.....gives the website free advertisment
just my opinion
if it was a plug building website, that shirt would be great
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09-23-2006, 10:52 AM
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sick of bluefish
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I read this post this morning and didnt respond, I felt lousy being critical since John does SO much work to keep this thing running. Like many, I'm not crazy about the design, too busy and it is too plug-centric.
I would love a shirt with just a logo, plain and simple.
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09-23-2006, 12:37 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I read this post this morning and didnt respond, I felt lousy being critical since John does SO much work to keep this thing running. Like many, I'm not crazy about the design, too busy and it is too plug-centric.
I would love a shirt with just a logo, plain and simple.
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I feel the same way, I think if you put the Sponcers on one of the sleeves and a simple design
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09-23-2006, 12:49 PM
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What ever you do John, please put me in for 2 xxl
What no Antique Lures ????
lol... only fooling around
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