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09-23-2006, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Seekonk
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Its def a shirt for the Sponsers, the first thing you notice about the shirt is the sponsers, i had to look hard to see the Striped-bass.com on it! Let the sponsers put out thier own shirts, and let the site have a shirt thats just for SB.com. To over the top, i'd walk around feeling like a freakin car at a Nascar race with all the damn sponsers and adds posted on my back!!
This shirt shouldnt be dedicated to one group or a few sponsers, it should be a shirt that includes ALL Sb.com members and isnt a walking advertisment for Sponsers and Plug builders. The Striper/American flag is simple, yet classy, and includes ALL Striped-Bass.com members. And its our offical logo after all!! And is focused on the site ONLY and not Sponsers.
I'm with RR on this, as much as i like the she current design on the shirt, its to over the top for me to actually wear.
And the fact that Skitterpop and I actaully agree on this, should tell you something is seriosly wrong with the concept of the shirt!
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09-23-2006, 10:27 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,288
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Its def a shirt for the Sponsers, the first thing you notice about the shirt is the sponsers, i had to look hard to see the Striped-bass.com on it! Let the sponsers put out thier own shirts, and let the site have a shirt thats just for SB.com. To over the top, i'd walk around feeling like a freakin car at a Nascar race with all the damn sponsers and adds posted on my back!!
This shirt shouldnt be dedicated to one group or a few sponsers, it should be a shirt that includes ALL Sb.com members and isnt a walking advertisment for Sponsers and Plug builders. The Striper/American flag is simple, yet classy, and includes ALL Striped-Bass.com members. And its our offical logo after all!! And is focused on the site ONLY and not Sponsers.
I'm with RR on this, as much as i like the she current design on the shirt, its to over the top for me to actually wear.
And the fact that Skitterpop and I actaully agree on this, should tell you something is seriosly wrong with the concept of the shirt!
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And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.
At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?
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09-23-2006, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Seekonk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.
At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?
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John, who would object to a simple White T shirt with the official SB logo on the back?? Thats all i'm saying, you can't go wrong with that design. Its simple and straight to the point. Simple is always better, alot of people dont like flashy stuff.
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09-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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I have a few TheHullTruth tshirts,
They make it very clear of what the hull truth is even for someone who never heard of that site.
It comes down to this,
Are we doing a shirt desigh for the site or plug building ???
If you (John) are doing a shirt for plug building it's awesome, and I don't want to make you think all the time & work you put into it is not appreciated,
But I thought this was a FISHING site !!!
Not one that caters to only 1 portion of it's members !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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09-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: OUTDOORS/ Fairhaven,Ma.
Posts: 1,989
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The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question. I think Johns idea is to have a shirt that will sell to the LARGEST number here or am I missing something here? If the shirt is not to help bring money to the site then yes any design would be fine. But if it is to bring $$$$$$$ to the site then you would want a shirt that would give you the best sales to the MOST number of members. To that end John I would be willing to donate up to $500.00 for the print work of a SB.com logo shirt that sells SB.com only and I will not ask to have my name put on it  just want the first shirt.
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21' striper D/C Yamaha 150 HPDI named PLAIN JANE
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09-23-2006, 11:53 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Damn - who knew this would hit 3 pages faster than an #^^^^^^& thread  ?
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The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question.
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OK moneybags  - Maybe I'm just beating myself over the head a little with the whole shirt thing. And no, I would not have you do that
If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?
As for this appearing just for the plugs, we have ALL different kinds of anglers here and one of the most consistant threads in our community is the custom plugs beacuse a lot of people fish them - not talking about building - but fish them, from surf, canal, boat, yak.
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09-23-2006, 09:47 PM
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here fishy fishy
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: westport,ma.
Posts: 3,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?
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sounds like the plan to me
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of all the things i've lost...i miss my mind the most!!
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09-24-2006, 09:55 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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I suggest that JohnR set up a PM address, like the one for YASBR, for indications of interest/orders for sizes and numbers. Only those with interest in purchase need reply, and JR will have an idea of initial orders.....
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09-24-2006, 11:23 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Go for it John.
I like the shirt. And you know we all fish with these plugs. I fly fish also, but I still love plugging and these plugs all fish well. The guys who make them support this site. Start with this design first and then go from there.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-24-2006, 11:24 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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One more thing
JR can you squeeze my name on there, not for any particular reason I just want my name on the shirt too.  After all you know how famous I am. Thank you John Pollack!
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-23-2006, 12:13 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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"You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-23-2006, 12:23 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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John,
Please understand that I am in no way attempting to take away from what you've done. It can be tweaked though and I'm willing to help.
Very simple design:
Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font
Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink.
Or you could do a picture of a guy hooked up to a fish on the back.
The design shown:
John the design you show looks very busy and Im getting the idea that the main focus are three dif. things but they realy dont all play well together. 1. the sb logo. 2. the lures, looks great! but as was mentioned maybe a bit much I mean I love it, but not tied together with 1 & 3. Section three looks like it was tacked on as after thought. Again Im not attacking your work just giving my opinion. If anything I'm willing to help you work on this
Suggestions for the current design would be to increase the font size of the logo name on the back, and remove the sponsor names from the back of the shirt. This makes section 1 and 2 place a little nicer together.
Take the sponsors names, every sponsor: Have them run listed horizontally but in clear text on the sleeves of the T's.
Or have the art work on the front of the shirt, and the sb logo, same as the stickers on the back of the shirt with a listing of the sponsors on the back of the shirt. This would make soo much more sense with mock ups. If I have time today I'll hop on it.
Last edited by ThrowingTimber; 09-23-2006 at 12:35 PM..
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09-23-2006, 01:08 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
Very simple design:
Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font
Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink.
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I second that idea.
Now that I think of it John, it's nice but it really doesn't represent the site to me.
I think u should make an #^^^^^^& shirt too, bet you'd sell a lot of them. Maybe like my avitar with a pic of #^^^^^^& in the middle..Sorry Bill, couldn't resist. 
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09-23-2006, 05:25 PM
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...and in person!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Scituate MA
Posts: 999
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
...I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.
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how long did it take before you did the s-b.com stickers and the short-lived hat?
heck, how long did it take the various 'xperts here to master their particular craft.
it will be ready when its ready and not before or after.
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