Clinton lost his cool

[riverrat55]

We Americans love to "play" the "Blame Game".
Of course this idea is fueled by the media which I am
sorry to say plays on the stupidity of most Americans.
We seem to have short term memories when it come to
past issues. We blame the administration now, or the previous
one, yet look no further to the past at the whole picture.
To fully understand why we are where we are at, you must look
at the policies this country has established and followed in the
last 60 years or so.

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by riverrat55

We Americans love to "play" the "Blame Game".
Of course this idea is fueled by the media which I am
sorry to say plays on the stupidity of most Americans.
We seem to have short term memories when it come to
past issues. We blame the administration now, or the previous
one, yet look no further to the past at the whole picture.
To fully understand why we are where we are at, you must look
at the policies this country has established and followed in the
last 60 years or so.

fine, let's lay the blame where it really belongs.

nuke israel.

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

fine, let's lay the blame where it really belongs.

nuke israel.

Nuking is too harsh just leave them stranded and let the dogs get them.

[MotoXcowboy]

I was told by a Marine I served with who had "yankee white duty" (presidential guard) that he always had lots of pornographic material around...in Airforce one...ect......

sorry

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy

I was told by a Marine I served with who had "yankee white duty" (presidential guard) that he always had lots of pornographic material around...in Airforce one...ect......

sorry

So he would have liked the Hottie Thread too....


I heard Airforce One has lots of Colorin Books on Board these days.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Nuking is too harsh just leave them stranded and let the dogs get them.

Why do hate Israel so much? They're the only "normal" people in the middle east! Yet for some reason you can't stand the jews. Why?

[stormfish]

No I don't hate the Jews. My neighbors and landlord are Jewish so it doesn't bother me. The people don't bother me, it's the existance of a 60 year old country (Isreal) and how they handle affairs with their neighbors is what bothers me. It is because of that country that conflict exists in the middle east. Our intervention from history in that area is what affects the crisis we face today. The more we do the worst and more tense it gets. That's why I think we should admit some sort of defeat and let the Middle East carry on their affairs. This can cause concerns for homeland securities, but why not do more for our country as in protection rather than cause reasons for our country to be attacked? Like I mentioned throughout the thread, we're only causing more radical islamist and that can be backed by the NIE. But then again the NIE reported weapons of mass destruction in Iraq being developed in 2002.

What it boils down to is a big mess that we the U.S. got ourselves into. If we admit defeat and go on the defensive then, maybe we can save moral victory as with being safe at home. Don't intervene with Isreal and let the Muslim and Jews blow each other up. Why should be care?

300 billion dollars is what is being spent on the war in Iraq as of today. President Karzai mentioned with that much money, Afghanistan would be heaven within 1 year. That means terrorist free and an operating country. That may sound like bull, but this is the guy we help vouched as their president so going against his words would be a contradiction.

Bottomline, this is a war that we cannot win. Let's not spawn another Vietnam war. A war with little if any cause. Remember Iraq wasn't about terrorism from the start, it was Afghanistan. Close to 3000 American civilians were killed in 9/11, we're bound to reach that mark in American Soldiers soon. So with a year or month the total mortality of this ordeal since 9/11 would be 6000+ Americans. Should we go there?