Getting "schooled". - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

likwid · 10-01-2006, 08:50 AM

Its fishing with a buddy, not competition.

BigFish · 10-01-2006, 08:55 AM

I am usually on the short end in my group of fishing buddies......just the luck of the draw I think....occasionally I will come out on top (but not often) however I am always happy for their success as that is what we are there to do....catch fish!

eelman · 10-01-2006, 08:57 AM

The more guys you fish with the more your chances go down and like bigfish said Its luck of the draw.........I dont like fishing with more than one guy tops

tlapinski · 10-01-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid

Its fishing with a buddy, not competition.

I never said I was competing, just sort of making an observation out loud. I know a couple reasons why I am not doing as well as I have in past seasons, with less time on the water being the main factor this year. I would be willing to say that most of us are competing with something when we are out, whether it be competing with ourselves for a new personal best or with each other for the fish of the night. Even if you are not willing to say this out loud, I think it is there in some form or another. I think to say you never have an urge to "be the best" at something means you are probably lieing to yourself. A little competition can be a huge driving force to keep me going and make me get out of bed in the middle of the night to go stand in the dark and hurl offerings towards the horizon. The surfcaster I was referring to in the earlier post has paid me some huge compliments over the past couple seasons. I stil say I have learned 10x as much from him and my other fishing partners though! . At times, this has even put some pressure on me mentally when we are out. To see the guys I fish with do well actually makes me feel good about myself these days. I no longer get bothered by this fact. Now, I make notes as to why I did not do as well as I could have. Maybe with age has come humility.

piemma · 10-01-2006, 10:15 AM

You guys know I fish with RI Rockhound in the surf. He's been my partner for 3 years. Bryan and I never consider it to be a competition. If he beats me on any given night I am happy for him. Same if I beat him. We have never had this "you beat me you
bas*%^$$ted" thing.
I fished with Gil Guilletone for the better part of 20 years till he passed on. Gil and I never had the competion thing. It was as it is with Bryan and I. We are a team. If I need help landing a fish, he's there for me. If he needs a hand, I reel in put my rod down and lend a hand. That's they way it should be. We don't necessarily fish next to each other all the time. But when we do, that's the way it is.

tlapinski · 10-01-2006, 10:27 AM

I think the idea of competition referred to is being perceived wrong. I was not saying I or anyone I fish with makes a point to do harm to the results of others. I'll be the first one to stop fishing and help land a fish for a friend or to pass along what I am learning to them.

Here is a question that is at the root of the direction this thread is going, how would you define your inner drive to do better?

tattoobob · 10-01-2006, 10:47 AM

I think if you are catching fish in the 20 pound class consistently you are doing good believe me, you should not be getting pissed off at all you are out in nature, and you have people to fish with. I have to fish alone most of the times because most of the people I know don't fish like I do. the safty factor goes way up when you are alone.

I know it stinks getting the smaller fish but it happens to everybody, funny thing is is that people never post when they get skunked it is only when they have a good night with good fish.

If you are getting mad while fishing maybe you should find something to do that makes you happy.

Clammer · 10-01-2006, 10:56 AM

Great thread /gotta reread it /but I,m late //gotta get out //

I,mm sure there will be alot more to read later >>>>>

BigFish · 10-01-2006, 11:05 AM

I know what you are saying T-Lap about the "competition" thing....yeah, I agree with you I think many of us do have that mini "compitition" going on...always wanting that new personal best or at least some fish that make the night memorable!

jim sylvester · 10-01-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma

You guys know I fish with RI Rockhound in the surf. He's been my partner for 3 years. Bryan and I never consider it to be a competition. If he beats me on any given night I am happy for him. Same if I beat him. We have never had this "you beat me you
bas*%^$$ted" thing.
I fished with Gil Guilletone for the better part of 20 years till he passed on. Gil and I never had the competion thing. It was as it is with Bryan and I. We are a team. If I need help landing a fish, he's there for me. If he needs a hand, I reel in put my rod down and lend a hand. That's they way it should be. We don't necessarily fish next to each other all the time. But when we do, that's the way it is.

Paul,
same way i am with my fishing partners

If the guy next to me hooks up and says its large, I immediately put my rod down and billy goat over to him to land the fish
it or vice versa

a good laugh is had when the fish is only 15 # and kicks the *(#@ out of you......theres usually some good old fashion busting involved

to put it plain and simple....you fish with your friends, not for competition but for the commradery, memories that I will take to the grave with me

Raider Ronnie · 10-01-2006, 12:00 PM

I get schooled every time fishing live pogies with Capt. Mike B.
But I would bet most anyone here would also !!!

Goose · 10-01-2006, 07:42 PM

I been there and yeah its very frustrating. At times I know why it happened and other times I can only guess.
If one guy has knowledge of that area he's gonna know where most of the fish are taken. Sometimes its a flip of the coin(you take that rock I take this one) or hole ect. and there ain't chit you can do to control that.
I've been over big schools of fish and can't put fish in the boat while the guy next to me is bailing'um, wtf . Alot can be said about haveing the natural feel in what ever style of fishing your doing and with that comes confidence. It isn't easy being a good jigger but when your taught by a good jigger and fish side by side you know what feeling expect....same can be said for eels, plugs ect.

Tagger · 10-01-2006, 08:03 PM

Some people are very competitive .. I try not to be and the people I fish with are cool . We'll yell out what were taking fish on ,,,try to help eachother out .. I think alot of times its just luck getting your stuff in front of the fishes face . Hey Flap ... you forgot to mention smelly jelly...

afterhours · 10-01-2006, 08:58 PM

fish with a few people- no competion with them- love it when they catch! love it when i catch! it's all good.

piemma · 10-02-2006, 04:25 AM

MD2020
You sound like a great guy.

Saltheart · 10-02-2006, 07:54 AM

I suppose you should be paying attention and getting some "schooling" every trip out Even when you are high hook!.

Jenn · 10-02-2006, 05:40 PM

RM...for what its worth I am still laughing about the itchy butt story...but dont be offended if I dont shake your hand

ANYWAY......Last year while LMB fishing we couldnt catch to save our lives no matter what we did.....and we tried it all. So here is our frinds kid with a bobber and shiner set up....doesnt even cast it.....just drops it over the side of the boat (literally only 2-3 feet of line in the water) and is nailing Smallmouth bass left and right..from the same spot...and in the middle of summer...needless to say we adults were schooled that day!

here we were trying every technique in the book when all we needed to do was to throw the book aside....

Rappin Mikey · 10-01-2006, 11:29 AM

I swear to God, and I'm pretty religious, Catholic school and everything. Every time I go fishing with an itchy butt, I out fish everybody on the beach! Actually, sometimes I make sure I have an itchy butt before I go fishing these days.

I know this is gonna be kind of crude, but it has become one of those strange supersticions I have, so please let me explain in detail. First off, lets face it, Everybody tries to take a dump before they embark on an all night fishing excursion. It's easier at home then on the beach/rocks, what ever.

Well, this all began for me when I went fishing on the Cape for a weekend a few years back. I had a slight touch of the stomach flu this particular weekend, and the runs had become an obvious problem. After fighting the traffic for 5 hours, if I remember correctly, it was the weekend of the P-town Gay Parade, out of frustration I decided I would have a few beers. Bad Idea. After number four, my stomach sounded like a perkalator, and I decided to call it quits. I went to bed for a few hours to wait out the tide, got up, and was still feeling quite lousy. Anyway, a little ague isn't stopping this guy. I jumped on the pot took care of buisness and hit the road. However, because of the bug, the preliminary dumpage was not enough to suffice. Let me explain.

I got to the beach, aired down, drove to my spot, tied on, threw the waders on, then it hit me. I felt the rumble in the jungle, thats what I like to call it anyway. There was no way I was driving back off the beach at this point, and I had a few wet wipes. So I decided to go dig a little hole and........ I don't feel I really need to elaborate much further. On second thought, maybe I will anyway.

I don't care who you are, the old emergency situation has happened to evreybody. You all know, you can't get the same wipe on squatting over a hole in the sand as you do at the throne at home. Because of this, after an "emergency situation", one naturally is going to walk away with an itchy butt.

It was one of those mornings when there was a slight sw west out there. Where I was fishing, that wind is at your back, and usually tends to lay things down as far as surf goes. To say the least, I wasn't expecting to have much action. There was a thin fog though, and I like the fog.

When I finally made my first it cast it was still very dark and I was one of the only people on the beach. I believe I was tossing a needle to start. Nothing! I started to cycle through the plug bag to no avail. Everytime I would change up, I would think to myself, "Wow, my butt sure is itchy". Anyway, it got to be false dawn, and I decided I would throw on a yellow canal special. At this point, the beach was crowded. Not to crowded, but you could definitely see a good number of fisherpeople in either direction, none of whom were seeing much action. Well, once I tied on that popper, me and my itchy butt started to slay the fish! The cool thing was everything was on top, and we all know, there is no feeling more exillerating then seeing a good size striper explode on your offering when the rest of the water around is relatively still.

To make a long story shorter, nobody but me landed a striper that morning. I lost two to the seals, and beached 6 between 15 and twenty pounds. I know those aren't huge fish, but they seem big when everyone around you is catching rat blues.

The next morning was a repeat performance, itchy butt and all. I walked away with fish, while everyone else on the beach looked perplexed, I'm sure wondering what my secret was. Little did anyone know, it was just my itchy butt. So, Toby, next time you go fishing with this guy, I don't mind if you utilize this technique. And remember what Confusious said "He who goes fishing with an itchy butt, comes home with a smelly fish finger". I hope this helped.