John Kerry

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Yea, Kerry said sorry as well.

What is the GOP going to do now that they can't beat that horse?

-spence

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what he says he is apologizing for. Sounds like one of his "I actually decided to apologize after I decided not to apologize" routines. Like that justifies anything. I dont really see this so much as a partisan issue due to the fact that bumbling, pompous, idiots are found in all political parties. As bad as Bush may be I'd take him over this out of touch, arrogant, pompous creep anytime.

[Skip N]

More flip floppin' from Kerry, he said he wasnt going to apologize, now he is apologizing? He know's he ruined any chance at running for president again after those idiotic comments, so he's trying to save his ass the best he can.

Too late John, if you were truly sorry you wouldnt have waited three days to apologize. He's only apologizing because he sees how pissed Americans are at him.

Only folks like Spence think you're being sincere!

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what he says he is apologizing for.

This isn't that complicated. It's just like if I say something stupid to my wife I didn't mean, she still wants me to say I'm sorry...

But to be honest, the entire thing is absurd. You're telling me the US MARINES need an appology over a botched joke?

Kerry is an easy target and I think a lot of the Bush Bots just feel good jumping on the pile.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

This isn't that complicated. It's just like if I say something stupid to my wife I didn't mean, she still wants me to say I'm sorry...

But to be honest, the entire thing is absurd. You're telling me the US MARINES need an appology over a botched joke?

Kerry is an easy target and I think a lot of the Bush Bots just feel good jumping on the pile.

-spence

As I said before he half/assed apoligized, I dont think an apology is needed. He said what he said and people will intrepret it as they choose apology or not. Bush, Hillary, and Ford to name a few felt an apology was required so after a few days he changed his position on apologizing and made an attempt at it. As far as Marines requiring it, nope I dont think all the apologies in the world are going to change their viewpoint of John Kerry. The Democrats at this point need to scramble to minimize the overall effect this will have on the Miltary vote. If our Miltary demonstrates a transposed Democratic strategy (Anything Against Bush) into Anything Against Kerry, it could hurt in 06 and 08. As far as the botched joke thing, his attempt at trying to make a joke referencing Bush as an uneducated idiot (As if refering to a sitting President as an uneducated idiot in War time is acceptable by any low standard of decency) has had the opposite effect especially seeing how Bush had a higher GPA at Yale then Kerry did. If there wasn't a pattern of these types of remarks by Kerry maybe this would go away as quietly as you would like.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

As I said before he half/assed apoligized, I dont think an apology is needed. He said what he said and people will intrepret it as they choose apology or not. Bush, Hillary, and Ford to name a few felt an apology was required so after a few days he changed his position on apologizing and made an attempt at it.

It's all about politics. The botched joke was political, the Whitehouse jumping on it was political, and the Dems calling for an appology was political...

As far as Marines requiring it, nope I dont think all the apologies in the world are going to change their viewpoint of John Kerry.

And still nearly all of the 40+ Iraq vets running for Congress are on the Democratic ticket.

The Democrats at this point need to scramble to minimize the overall effect this will have on the Miltary vote.

I think the US Military cares a lot more about where they're going to be sent, why they're going to be sent and if they'll be properly equipped with a plan for success!

THAN ANYTHING JOHN KERRY HAS TO SAY.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

It's all about politics. The botched joke was political, the Whitehouse jumping on it was political, and the Dems calling for an appology was political...

And still nearly all of the 40+ Iraq vets running for Congress are on the Democratic ticket.

I think the US Military cares a lot more about where they're going to be sent, why they're going to be sent and if they'll be properly equipped with a plan for success!

THAN ANYTHING JOHN KERRY HAS TO SAY.

-spence

Well if the Democrats are politicizing the issue I guess its okay, but shame on Republicans for the same thing,

While those 40 Democrat/Soldiers chose to run for office rather than fighting a War might tell us a little something in itself.

As far as what the Military thinks about John Kerry I have some first hand knowledge on that matter considering I have several family members both deployed and returned (and one volunteering to go back) from Iraq and trust me on this: They and their friends do not consider John Kerry a friend or a hero, and yes they do care when a Senator from their home state accuses them of Terrorizing women and children.
As far as being concerned about where and why they are deployed, of course they wonder where but being soldiers and airmen the why isn't really their concern. Accomplishing the mission they are assigned is their concern. While they may not agree with all of Bushs strategic policies they do have a far better understanding of them than you or I and they do agree with most. The objections they do have are expressed in a thoughtful and respectful manner. In my book that makes them better Soldiers, Airmen and Human Beings than Kerry ever thought of being. (By the way they all but one are college graduates)

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

While those 40 Democrat/Soldiers chose to run for office rather than fighting a War might tell us a little something in itself.

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by spence

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

Funny, when Kerry or any Dem rips into the military you dont demand any sort of appology from them. But now your offended by comments made by Stripersnipr? Helloooo double standard!

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

I think thats what you wish I said.

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by spence

You're telling me the US MARINES need an appology over a botched joke?
-spence

Spence,

I haven't seen Lt. Colonel Dan Walter around lately, but on his behalf I'd like to offer you this cup of shut the f*ck up again.

What's really not amusing is when those of us over here have to listen to those of you back there, especially those who have no personal stake, talk as though you only have our best interests at heart...when most of us would prefer just you pipe down...

...Spence, don't presume to use my family thinking you know who or what insults them. They'd tell you to shut your gobs.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

I haven't seen Lt. Colonel Dan Walter around lately, but on his behalf I'd like to offer you this cup of shut the f*ck up again.

Yea, because if we'd all just be quite and let this stellar foreign policy team work it's magic everything would be ok.



-spence

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by spence

Yea, because if we'd all just be quite and let this stellar foreign policy team work it's magic everything would be ok.



-spence

blah blah blah.

Spence, you're a sniveling little pu$$y f*gg*t.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

blah blah blah.

Spence, you're a sniveling little pu$$y f*gg*t.

That's great...are you going to threaten to boil my kid in oil like the last time you went off?

I'll take the high road on this one. I think you've already dug your own hole.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

That's great...are you going to threaten to boil my kid in oil like the last time you went off?

I'll take the high road on this one. I think you've already dug your own hole.

-spence

You already chose to be the Low Road when you purposefully changed your own designed misconstruance into a downright lie. Let me know when your ready to apolgize...

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by spence

That's great...are you going to threaten to boil my kid in oil like the last time you went off?

I'll take the high road on this one. I think you've already dug your own hole.

-spence

shut up you pu$$y.