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11-06-2006, 07:00 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
 Hi all, Some of you know me an some don't. I'm the Stripermaineiac from up in Maine-- Ron . I was wondering if there is gonna be any movement to shut down the comercial rod -n-reel striper season or not. Ever since it started back up in the mid 90's the numbers of large stripers around has been getting fewer an fewer each year. It's gotten so bad that few people are finding them an up here in Maine they have become almost non existant.
The small number of big bass being seen all up and down the coast is a bad sign. Between all the by catch killing huge numbers of big bass an the comercial rod n reelers selling 30 fish apiece every day well the toll is becoming huge with big fish being wiped out. The sad part is the majority of those doing the comercial rod n reel have regular jobs an often brag about all the new toys they have gotten with the money they make from the sales.
I remeber all the steps an sacrafices we made back in the 80's to bring these great fish back from the brink an here we are again back on the same road so a small few can make a quick buck. at least we should look at doing as Florida does. If you aren't providing 25 percent of your income from it you don't get a liscence to do it.
Either way something needs to be done about the control that the comercials have over fisheries in Mass. Shut down the scup season to non-comercials an give comercial fishermen a longer season. Extend the squid season 2 weeks because the comercials can't fill their quota. Good idea when there is a shortage of them to extend the season. Then the damage being done to the herring by the pair trawlers an other netters so shut down the taking of herring to sportfisherman. MMMM then tell the comercials they can have a 2500 lb per day by catch. Do we even use that much herring for bait for most of the season what they have as a weekly bycatch.
Well for my 2 cents its time to start pushing for action before things get too bad again. I'm for gamefish status yes but I'm also for smarter management an tell the greedy no a little more often before there's nothing left to fish for. Tight lines all., Ron
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Three things Ron:
1. Get the facts before you post this stuff.
2. Come in off the ledge.
3. Nothing personal, but these types of well intentioned posts usually contain zero fact and 100 percent emotion/self interest, just like this one.We do have some problems, but it isn't due to a lack of bass,especially the small ones. When you see the little ones(replacement fish) disappear, its panic time.
Last edited by Back Beach; 11-06-2006 at 07:09 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-06-2006, 07:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plum Island
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You make some good points!!!
What needs to be done is for all these States to get together
and discuss each others regs. for fishing!!!
Maybe a compromise can be worked out!!!

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11-06-2006, 08:31 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Didn't you have the same discussion over on SOL a few months ago? You'll get the same answers here--why start it again unless it's just to stir the pot?
When I, in my other identity as Ditch Jigger, threw some facts up there, you seemed to accept them as valid. Go back and read them--I don't have the patience to rehash this stuff. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-06-2006, 09:02 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Lack of big fish the last 2 years during comm. season wasn't due to me. I suck.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-06-2006, 09:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,751
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Like John R said this arguement comes up every year.
I believe, but don't take this as fact, I have heard that if you do the research gathered from the State that the average size commercial bass sold is not that "large"...I believe it is around 20 pounds.
What I really can't stand is when the arguement comes about only comm fisherman should have a license etc.....lots of people have more than one source of income whether it is 50% 10% or 2%. Lots of comm fisherman say have a plow on the truck in the winter. This is like saying only true plow drivers can plow. That arguement just doesn't hold water.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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11-06-2006, 10:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Dear Ron, Maine is such a nice place, why not stay the %$%$%$%$ up there and mind your own house instead of coming on this board and starting trouble. Are you a StripersForever plant or informant? Like the Recreational Fishing Alliance who based all thier scinece (junk science) on a supposed "expert" who was found to have falsefied his resume' and never ever actually observed on any boats, by his own admission a week ago, is actually a phony.
Now, get this right for once and for all, then go back to browsing the LL Bean catalogs for the winter, commercial harvest of striped bass in this state no where near mirrors or exceeds the recreational take and poaching done by certain ethnic groups. Our problem is not bass it's bait. No herring, minimal large Menhaden, lack of sand eels inshore on the outer Cape and seals.
Now, I beg you, from now on post constructively or shut the %$%$%$%$ up.
I can't type anymore my hands are too cut up from catching bass from dawn to midnight yesterday.
Sincerely, Steve Shiraka, Falmouth Ma. 
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Why even try.........
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11-06-2006, 10:15 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Here's the Cliff's Notes version of my reply to you on SOL:
1) The Mass commercial season starts on the second Tuesday in July.
2) Few, if any, of the fish taken will be migrating to Maine after mid July.
3) The Mass fishery is rod and reel only and has a 34" minimum. Every female fish harvested has spawned at least once.
4) Assuming a 20 pound average, about 50,000 bass are harvested during the Mass commercial season.
5) Estimates put the current striped bass biomass at somewhere between 40 and 50 million, coast wide.
6) The Mass commercial season has a negligible effect, if any, on the numbers of bass in Maine.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-06-2006, 10:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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I see your off to a wonderful f $%^&*( day :: 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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