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[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

The problem isn't just training...there's a small issue with "motivation"

-spence

Motivation is definetely a component of the Training process. Any Marine will tell you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Motivation is definetely a component of the Training process. Any Marine will tell you.

And without motivation the training is moot.

-spence

[Mike P]

Unfrortunately, there is no easy way out. We can't hand the Iraqi people a hot steaming plate of camel dung, that we dished up, and say "bon appetit" and "au revoir".

That's what Powell meant when he told the rest of the Administration, "you break it, you own it" before the war.

Maybe now everyone understands why Bush 41 never wanted to take Bahgdad or overthrow Saddam back in 1991 W should have listened more closely to Daddy's advice and not Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

And without motivation the training is moot.

-spence

Many a unmotivated youth has entered basic Training. Those that complete it are motivated.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Many a unmotivated youth has entered basic Training. Those that complete it are motivated.

Perhaps we should have sent them to Parris Island then, but I remember something about it being done on site.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Look at the Kurds, no problem with motivation...because they have ownership.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Perhaps we should have sent them to Parris Island then, but I remember something about it being done on site.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Look at the Kurds, no problem with motivation...because they have ownership.

-spence

We are talking about Military Training. Not Apples not Oranges. Military Training whether in Parris Island or Bagdhad instills motivation. Unmotivated individuals fail. Are you trying to tell us we are wasting our time Training Security Forces in Iraq? Or are you just being contrary to common sense?

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Are you trying to tell us we are wasting our time Training Security Forces in Iraq? Or are you just being contrary to common sense?

Common sense would indicate training effectiveness will be seriously hampered without motivation. We can't solve all the motivation issues, you can only lead the horse to water, but our policy decisions have really crippled us here.

Bush has been against setting many meaningful goals that would help to pressure Iraqi's into taking action into their own hands. I'm not advocating an immediate pull-out, but we might have to let them crash the bike in order to learn how to ride.

-spence

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