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			11-16-2006, 02:59 PM
			
			
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				Actually this has been researched quite heavily in the most terror prone place on the planet...Palestine. 
 
About 20% of Palestenian suicide bombers are thought to be Islamists. The vast majority are quite normal people who see no other course in life because of rage, humiliation and despair. 
 
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 Guess what."Quite normal people" dont blow themselves up.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-16-2006, 03:00 PM
			
			
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		 Is it so difficult to believe? 
 
Go do your own reading, I don't remember where I read it...I'm sure you can find a lot of stuff online. 
 
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			11-16-2006, 03:01 PM
			
			
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				Guess what."Quite normal people" dont blow themselves up. 
			
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 Yea, well quite normal people don't engage in ethnic cleansing or genocide either...
 
Yet it still happens over and over again.
 
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			11-16-2006, 03:12 PM
			
			
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			11-16-2006, 03:14 PM
			
			
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				Yea, well quite normal people don't engage in ethnic cleansing or genocide either... 
 
Yet it still happens over and over again. 
 
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 Come on, your slipping.  You've find a way to rationalize suicide bombing I'm sure you can spin a logical and reasonable rational for genocide and ethnic cleansing.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-16-2006, 03:16 PM
			
			
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				You've find a way to rationalize suicide bombing I'm sure you can spin a logical and reasonable rational for genocide and ethnic cleansing. 
			
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 I've rationalized nothing...
 
Jesus, If I read a story on Germany in WWII does that make me a Nazi?
 
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			11-16-2006, 03:53 PM
			
			
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		 I would love to hear John's rant 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-16-2006, 04:09 PM
			
			
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			11-16-2006, 05:03 PM
			
			
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			11-16-2006, 09:11 PM
			
			
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				I would love to hear John's rant 
			
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			11-17-2006, 08:14 AM
			
			
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		 "Rage, humiliation and dispair".  I've seen that in these threads several times.  I believe the Rage part, but how have these poor muslims been humiliated?  What about dispair? 
 
I must confess I am not really interested in understanding why.  I'd rather see genocide used on them.  But how the f have these guys been humiliated?  I believe they humiliate themselves (burkha, rape as punishment, treat women like dogs.) But how has America humiliated muslims?  Have they been humiliated by political cartoons and skits on SNL? 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2006, 09:08 AM
			
			
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		 Slapshot, thats an easy one! Look how poor countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are! We steal their oil! The poor shieks can barely afford the 200 inch tvs in the Bentleys! Look how poor Muslims are persecuted in this country! they cant worship in peace, everywhere they go, people throw rocks at them. And the LAST straw and most humiliating, our media does not show the valiant mulsim warriors beheading Americans on TV!! How shameful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2006, 09:59 AM
			
			
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				I must confess I am not really interested in understanding why.  I'd rather see genocide used on them. 
			
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 That's obvious. I always did think genocide was a core American value.
 
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			11-17-2006, 10:05 AM
			
			
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				Slapshot, thats an easy one! Look how poor countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are! We steal their oil! The poor shieks can barely afford the 200 inch tvs in the Bentleys! Look how poor Muslims are persecuted in this country! they cant worship in peace, everywhere they go, people throw rocks at them. And the LAST straw and most humiliating, our media does not show the valiant mulsim warriors beheading Americans on TV!! How shameful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
			
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 You're missing the point entirely.
 
It's a mainstream Muslim belief that Western influence has allowed Middle Eastern leaders to oppress their people to keep cheap oil flowing. 
 
And guess what? A large part of it is true.
 
It doesn't mean it's our fault, they certainly have the responsibility to provide for their own people...but still, it is what it is. Bin Laden and others tap into this reality to fuel their fight.
 
There's volumes of reading available online or at your local library. I highly recommend taking some time to better understand the situation.
 
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			11-17-2006, 10:53 AM
			
			
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		 Cheap oil? Wait a minute, I thought George Bush, the GOP and BIG OIL were artificially boosting the price of oil?  This is so confusing! 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2006, 11:07 AM
			
			
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				Cheap oil? Wait a minute, I thought George Bush, the GOP and BIG OIL were artificially boosting the price of oil?  This is so confusing! 
			
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 I think there's a little bit of world history before Bush became president.
 
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			11-17-2006, 11:53 AM
			
			
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			11-17-2006, 11:53 AM
			
			
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				Yea, well quite normal people don't engage in ethnic cleansing or genocide either... 
 
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 Agree with that too  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2006, 11:56 AM
			
			
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		I knew this would get going eventually... I almost titled the post "light fuse and get away".... Maybe I should have.    
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2006, 12:27 PM
			
			
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