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[capesams]

you can turn 316 into putty if you heat it..but who wants to be a fire bug everytime you want to bend a nose loop or tail...now! I've been making some very small noses on some cherry needles..and with the 316/308 it's been splitting the nose of some plug's ..this need's to stop..to much work involved in these little begger's to be tossing them in the trash.

[Backbeach Jake]

Will heating the wire with a propane torch and letting it cool slow soften it some? I know if you heat it too much it ain't stainless anymore. Just thinking thru my fingers...

[NIB]

Come on steve u know the drill this ain't my dad's tackle era.limber glass rods mono with plenty of stretch. hooks made out of real steel.
If ur splittin the nose of ur plugs put something thru the fron't eyelet like a drill bit.take it out to snug the last 1'/2 turn.or use softer wire.Habs uses the softer stuff.i think the wire is the least of my problems.When it comes to hardware on a plug.On the gibbs pencils i change the soft wire to hard wire because at 3 plus oz's the tail loop gets mangled when it hits the rocks..I don' think u will have that problem with lighter needles...

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by capesams

you can turn 316 into putty if you heat it..but who wants to be a fire bug everytime you want to bend a nose loop or tail...now! I've been making some very small noses on some cherry needles..and with the 316/308 it's been splitting the nose of some plug's ..this need's to stop..to much work involved in these little begger's to be tossing them in the trash.

I think I been splitting my darters cranking down arse loop .(Maybe).. afraid to make any until I figure it out .. not the wood .. have made other plugs from hard maple same everything .. no split ..

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by capesams

you can turn 316 into putty if you heat it..but who wants to be a fire bug everytime you want to bend a nose loop or tail...now! I've been making some very small noses on some cherry needles..and with the 316/308 it's been splitting the nose of some plug's ..this need's to stop..to much work involved in these little begger's to be tossing them in the trash.

I use a ferrule on thin or long plugs. Two different reasons.
The long plugs I drill a 3/16 hole and the thin ones it keeps from splitting.
In keeping with my cheap theory I use 3/16 pop rivets that i drill out to 1/8.
I have some thru wired darters that have ferrules too, Gibbs?

[ProfessorM]

Steve do you use a nose grommet on your thin needles. If not I would think the wire will split the nose of the plug when you tighten up the tail loop. Sux all that work and junk.

[capesams]

U guy's know I ain't a second rate fumble finger's...everything is just so when building...tail wraps perhaps r far to tight forcing the nose loop to distort the nose gromet to an oval shape thus splitting the wood..no give on the tough wire....doesn't happen on the annealed wire...which is why I'll continue to use it even though it maybe unsettl ing to some.

BB +J..ya you can heat it up...I've had some 316? that was so tough it'd split your finger open trying to bend it around the plyer's,,,cherry red is to soft ...play with it some..count the seconds ....push the wire through the plug,,mark the wire where it come's out of the tail..heat an inch beyond the mark...twist and bend...bob's your uncle.


NIB..no worries about rocks...sand and boat fish only..no rocks in my hunting grounds...angler one has lots of soft wire...me too now...easy replacement.

[NIB]

i've gone thru that with the nose splitting.
It can be frustrating..