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Old 12-07-2006, 12:07 PM   #1
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I think thats a good point. Its the idea that you pay that much for a car, and you still need servicing & they still break.
...and look at the pathetic state of the Big 3 automakers right now.

Ford and GM and all their OEM's are headed towards or are in financial distress, partly due to lousy quality (vs. Japanese competition) and not listening to the consumer.

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Old 12-07-2006, 12:45 PM   #2
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BTW, it didn't cost me $700 but $499 cash for my new 250. A bigger bang for the buck, eh? By far the best investment ever on a surf reel because of the way I fish.

I had too many problems with the 705 in the short time I had it, particularly after any dunking in water or sand. I was glad to get rid of it. The 250 just feels far more substantial, indestructible and smoother. So far, it's been behaving superbly with the 50# Sufix Performance braid.

I don't know too many people who even have their VS serviced on an annual basis anyway. More like every other year or two, unless you fish it hard 300 days of the year.
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:09 PM   #3
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...and look at the pathetic state of the Big 3 automakers right now.

Ford and GM and all their OEM's are headed towards or are in financial distress, partly due to lousy quality (vs. Japanese competition) and not listening to the consumer.

Not sure I understand the analogy. Van Staal = American Car manufacturer GM?. GM is in financial distress, partly due to "lousy quality". Van Staal isnt in financial distress as far as I know, and they make quality products. If they were having financial problems, would it be because of competition with Japanese manufacturers of reels? Don't think they have any stiff competition from Japan... & Ford(aka Van Staal) doesnt listen to their consumers? They seem to listen to me....

Maybe im missing something?

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Old 12-12-2006, 10:08 AM   #4
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Van Staal isnt in financial distress as far as I know, and they make quality products
Do some research. Van Staal was in financial distress at the outset. I believe the original entity filed for bankrupcty several years back. It was sold to Reel Ventures LLC and then to Zebco.

The parent company of Zebco isn't going anywhere (run a D&B report on http://www.wcbradley.com/ ). But that doesn't mean that Zebco isn't going to try to keep this line profitable.

Look what aluminum is doing.

They aren't making money on service.

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Van Staal doesnt listen to their consumers?

Maybe im missing something?
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