Iraq na Phobia

[stripersnipr]

You really have to wonder about people who would choose to prosecute a sitting President for ambiguos war crimes in a time of war. Talk about handing the enemy a victory.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

You really have to wonder about people who would choose to prosecute a sitting President for ambiguos war crimes in a time of war. Talk about handing the enemy a victory.

In light of the fact that a majority of the World, including a majority of Americans believe the President led us to war for false reasons, therefore validating exactly what Bin Laden said we would do...

The near term victory has already been granted. Time will tell if we can take it away...

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

In light of the fact that a majority of the World, including a majority of Americans believe the President led us to war for false reasons, therefore validating exactly what Bin Laden said we would do...

The near term victory has already been granted. Time will tell if we can take it away...

-spence

Bin Laden punches America in the face and then predicts America will punch back. That is validation?

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Bin Laden punches America in the face and then predicts America will punch back. That is validation?

It's a bit more nuanced than that...but you did just articulate his point!

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

It's a bit more nuanced than that...but you did just articulate his point!

-spence

Wow. Using that rationale Victory is easily achieved. So using that logic had we not responded to Terrorist attacks we would have been victorious in the War on Terrorism.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Wow. Using that rationale Victory is easily achieved. So using that logic had we not responded to Terrorist attacks we would have been victorious in the War on Terrorism.

Unfortunately, that's about the level of dialogue that's directed our foreign policy the past five years

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Unfortunately, that's about the level of dialogue that's directed our foreign policy the past five years

-spence

We spent the 90's in dialogue.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

You really have to wonder about people who would choose to prosecute a sitting President for ambiguos war crimes in a time of war. Talk about handing the enemy a victory.

GWBUSH:

And I reject those ideas," he said. "Ideas such as leaving before the job is done. Ideas such as not helping this (Iraqi) government take the necessary and hard steps to be able to do its job."

Our Iraqi Government...not the the Iraqi peoples choice but our version....

Puhleeeesssseee.... you must have stock in munitions?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Our Iraqi Government...not the the Iraqi peoples choice but our version....

Puhleeeesssseee.... you must have stock in munitions?

This really is the problem.

It seems clear the single biggest mistake Bush made was to insert Paul Bremer to dictate just exactly how the Iraqi's were going to run their country.

The arrogance of this is beyond words. It literally is hegemony and it's exactly what Bin Laden told the Islamic world we would do.

Combined with the fact that Bush seems to have cared little of the regional social and religious structure...oh, and they didn't bother to secure the tons and tons of munitions and arms left in the open after Saddams fall...

The stupidity of this is beyond words. I don't know about you, but I expect more expertise from my government and accountability for those who led us here in this manner.

Instead Bush gives them civilian medals and high ranking jobs.

The obscenity of this is beyond words.

Skitterpop, I think some are just afraid to look.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

This really is the problem.

It seems clear the single biggest mistake Bush made was to insert Paul Bremer to dictate just exactly how the Iraqi's were going to run their country.

The arrogance of this is beyond words. It literally is hegemony and it's exactly what Bin Laden told the Islamic world we would do.

Combined with the fact that Bush seems to have cared little of the regional social and religious structure...oh, and they didn't bother to secure the tons and tons of munitions and arms left in the open after Saddams fall...

The stupidity of this is beyond words. I don't know about you, but I expect more expertise from my government and accountability for those who led us here in this manner.

Instead Bush gives them civilian medals and high ranking jobs.

The obscenity of this is beyond words.

Skitterpop, I think some are just afraid to look.

-spence

I think some people just understand that they can't dial in the Way-Back Machine and un-insert Paul Bremer into Iraq. Some people probably also think that conceding defeat in Iraq as a form of punishment to Bush is not the right to do for the country. But on the other hand some people probably think that conceding defeat as a form of punishment to Bush is critical to their cause at any cost.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Some people probably also think that conceding defeat in Iraq as a form of punishment to Bush is not the right to do for the country. But on the other hand some people probably think that conceding defeat as a form of punishment to Bush is critical to their cause at any cost.

Is that all you've got?

Yes, Americans by and large want us to loose. What a crock...

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Is that all you've got?

Yes, Americans by and large want us to loose. What a crock...

-spence

By and large? Nope, I dont think so. Only those who think charging a sitting President with war Crimes in the midst of a war.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

By and large? Nope, I dont think so. Only those who think charging a sitting President with war Crimes in the midst of a war.

So in a time of war all accountability should be suspended?

For a war that we know won't have an end?

This makes no sense.

Bush's duty is to defend the US Constitution...He's not King.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

By and large? Nope, I dont think so. Only those who think charging a sitting President with war Crimes in the midst of a war.

War crimes .... they do it and its a crime .... we do it in the name of God and Democracy and its not? .... this lack of self observance with objective honesty has always puzzled me about America.