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01-10-2007, 01:40 PM
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[QUOTE=Squibby17;449208]
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Originally Posted by Krispy
I agree with the old, old pictures. I'm 25 and when I see all these shots of guys with 15 30-40lb laided out on the beach from 1978. I don't know if I should shake there hand or walk away for obvious reasons. I think that a semiar like any type of information or entertainment has to draw people in and payoff with good visuals so you explain a techinque for a few minutes and then show a nice bass you pulled out using this techinque with in the past 5 years that says to me wow this guy knows what hes talking about (and not reliving the glory days).
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First of all, thanks for the insult, it wasn't appreciated by any of us here who lived the "glory days" of which I was and still are, proud to have been a part of. Your statement in this above quote shows more ignorance than knowledge, it's obvious your still a kid who knows all in your humble opinion. Saying things like "shake your hand or walk away for obvious reasons" is another slap in the face to those of us "old guys" who at the time, legally and through hard work put fish on the beach to sell. Science, which we rely on these days for things like input and direction on quotas and sustainable yield, was relied on by us just as much back then. There was no hard data that the end was near, some, like Bob Pond, had theories based on annecdotal eveidence, but no hard scientific fact to tell us that even though we were up to our ass in big bass the shoe was about to drop. Do you think putting 600 pounds or a 1000 pounds on the beach in one night was done by guys who did not know how to fish or if put in that situation again in the present days if the opportunity arose, wouldn't have the know how because that was then and this is now? What was looked on then as an admirable way to make a living or to supplement a challenging income should now be looked upon with scorn? How dare you! What makes you so holy? Do you think we would have done what we did if we knew then what we know now?
What is so different now than what we faced in 1978? Has the bass changed genetically to be more wary or intelligent than they were then? Someday my young friend you might see a change in your opinion but for now, as one who has been catching bass for 40 years plus and know and have known many of the greats of the old guard,the only thing shown by your post here is the vast amount of ignorance you have of your sport, it's history and the relevance of past days to where we are right now.
You have a lot of growing up to do, get on with it before you post such ridiculous, insulting and ignorant statements again.
Steve Shiraka
Cape Cod Ma
Striper Fisherman
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01-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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Tactics and technique, structure, bait patterns and how to recognize them, how to find fish. Things to make the listener think, sennse of humor, yeah, like had been said, as long as it's not forced. keep it to the point, and interesting... fish pics, and the past.. ya gotta have history.. here is a little from fall of 78  .. (BTW Flap, I think you know this guy.. 34 fish from the beach, 1000 pounds.. he has the slip.  )
Not a fan of pictures and cameras,now, but, dig history.. love pics from the good old days.. but not today.. if that makes sense.
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01-10-2007, 06:15 PM
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From the questions I see on the websites.I think alot of seminarian anglers could benitfit from a seminar on the rudimenatry things..
Gear,rods reels,line,(mono, braid,why they are diff.) leaders..Bait fishing bait selection,,lure selection as pertaining to prevelant forage,an migratory baitfish an thier patterns...
KNOTS
I think u could do a half hr on knots..
Seems simple to most but u would be surprised how many can't snell, palomar,uni to uni,clinch loop knot,albright..the list is endless.where an when to apply each..
I think most beginners lose quality fish beacuse they have Less than zero chance to begin with..
Surfcasting 101..
Be ginners would be glued to ur every word..'
Great for kids..
There's a market there..say 8-13 yr olds..
U know thats how the target sales in many other forms of entertainment..I know u know this if u have kids..
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It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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01-11-2007, 12:43 AM
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I want chix in bikinis.
Ask Dadbomba about his '78&'79 pix, crazy.
Later,
Rick
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01-13-2007, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Do you think we would have done what we did if we knew then what we know now?
Steve Shiraka
Cape Cod Ma
Striper Fisherman
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I started fishing down the cape with my dad in 78. I was very young but do recall the fish we would catch stripers, blues & flounder.. Do I regret the fish we kept? no I dont. Even though we were "having fun catching" we filleted and ate the fish we kept and yes we even sold some one year. It was a different time and place. Gone too are the days when you could drive RP and every one of the entire twenty people you saw out there waved and said hello. Anyway keeping those fish fed the family all year. It is no worse than the person that buys their fish in the store which is in fact worse if you want to add up the pounds of "bycatch" it took to put one pound of fish in the display case!!!! In fact if you fish at all you have NO RIGHT to judge someone for keeping legal fish.
Anyway #^^^^^^& I am sorry I hijacked your thread.
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Simplify.......
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01-13-2007, 10:23 AM
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#^^^^^^&,,, i think you need some pics,,, however the way you used them to show the result of your style of fishing is needed,,, fishermen do need to see the result pics,,, that is the nature of our sport,,, we all need to practice conservation but we all need to see results at any seminar,,,
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