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Old 01-12-2007, 01:41 PM   #1
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sorry

over and out!!

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Old 01-12-2007, 02:00 PM   #2
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LOL, Your post pulled me back in!!

Honestly, I think those were the rules. Slips had to go in once per week by some specific time and not submitted as soon as the fish were weighed in. That is the way I understood the rules. I could be wrong. Lord knows I have be wrong before! But IMO it really does not matter, and I really don't care one way or the other....it is the entire "being paid to fish" vs "not being paid to fish" that leaves that kind of dirty taste in my mouth. You go out and fish and spend money on fishing because you love to fish. You release fish because you love the fish. It is not the same when your on a comm boat.

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With regard to the slips, they could be numbered and accounted for. Say a shop gets slips #1-50, and fills one out upon a weigh in, with one of the cc's going back to otw to match the original. Kind of like a p.o. What you suggested is that a guy would have a bunch of slips for the week, send the biggest in, and throw the rest away, right? Put the onus on the weigh station to account for each one of their numbered slips that are issued. When the tourney ends, OTW could call that shop and say, "what happened to slips 22-30?,they weren't returned to us but you used them." This wouldn't add any additional hassle, because the slips need to be returned anyways. They would just be numbered and accounted for.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:05 PM   #3
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With regard to the slips, they could be numbered and accounted for. Say a shop gets slips #1-50, and fills one out upon a weigh in, with one of the cc's going back to otw to match the original. Kind of like a p.o. What you suggested is that a guy would have a bunch of slips for the week, send the biggest in, and throw the rest away, right? Put the onus on the weigh station to account for each one of their numbered slips that are issued. When the tourney ends, OTW could call that shop and say, "what happened to slips 22-30?,they weren't returned to us but you used them." This wouldn't add any additional hassle, because the slips need to be returned anyways. They would just be numbered and accounted for.

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Old 01-12-2007, 02:34 PM   #4
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I suppose that would work but what IF a slip was lost? This is a tackle shop you are dealing with not Arthur Anderson. IMO this entire thing it is fret with complications. I would hate being the guy having to make up the rules.

BTW, thanks for all the quotes guys.. I need to have a cup of Goose's favorite drink now and again.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:35 PM   #5
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Sandman,

I read you posted before you edited and agreed with some of what you stated but not all.

My thoughts......

For fairness to stop all the bickering they should just say no comm fish allowed. Though that won't stop the cheating of icing over etc.

The way I read the rules weather your a rec or comm anyone can enter 1 fish a week. Nothing that I read says you can't "cull" for the week and mail OTW your highest weight. If a rec or comm gets a 50 on Sunday and a 60 on Thursday the 60 slip goes in. Anyone can cull. Is this correct????

The only advantage the comm has over rec is he is spending way more time fishing for that 20 day period than the rec. His motivation is money, which for some or most is more than love. This gets his arse out of bed.....then double dips and weighs fish for the tourney, it is like "bycatch".....

Unfortunately, no matter what the rules, when big prizes or big egos are involved like boats and trucks no matter what the rules there will be dirty play.

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Old 01-12-2007, 07:00 PM   #6
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The state law for MA & RI indicate the possession of a maximum of two bass over 28" per day either from shore or boat.
The commercial should follow the same rules or have their own seperate tournament and prizes within the Striper Cup.


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OTW has enough subscibers and sponsors to take the lead in attempting to protect the forage of baitfish.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:38 AM   #7
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With regard to the slips, they could be numbered and accounted for. Say a shop gets slips #1-50, and fills one out upon a weigh in, with one of the cc's going back to otw to match the original. Kind of like a p.o. What you suggested is that a guy would have a bunch of slips for the week, send the biggest in, and throw the rest away, right? Put the onus on the weigh station to account for each one of their numbered slips that are issued. When the tourney ends, OTW could call that shop and say, "what happened to slips 22-30?,they weren't returned to us but you used them." This wouldn't add any additional hassle, because the slips need to be returned anyways. They would just be numbered and accounted for.

There are ways around everything..
If a shop was sponsering so to say,a team..
They could just write the weights down an tally em up at the end of the week.Sign a blank slip..to be filled out later.??
The only way to really assure is to have the slips be post marked 24 hrs after being weighed..That would have to be the entrants responsibility..
Of course on weekends that might be a problem..

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Old 01-27-2007, 06:33 AM   #8
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In the Feb 07 OTW magazine, there is an ad for Striper Cup 2007. Notable statements on this ad include;

1. "This years tournament will feature a new surf-casters division!"

2. "NEW FOR 07: Catch & Release Option"

Of course, more details to follow but this sounds promising.

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #9
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Oooo - Catch & release option? Wonder how that will work out.

I know I must split with many of my brothas (and probably piss a few off) but I think commercial season should somehow disabled for commercial license holders. Some say that there is no motivation or advantage - other than skill - but that is just not true. I'm perfectly fine with getting my ass handed to me by a superior commercial angler based on skill. The whole numerical advantage in how many bass a comm angler can posess during the same amount of time is tremendous....

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:10 AM   #10
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I can't worry about those who WILL cheat! I just take care of my own and they are the ones who have to live with themselves! Someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar last yar as I recall! See ya!

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:44 AM   #11
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Is anyone surprised that was a single club or an entrant from NY?Considering that the clubs as far as southern NJ participated ,its kind of odd.You cant say people in NY don't read OTW as everyone I know is a reader if not subscribers (granted ,I move in surf and not boat circles)

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